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Old 02-07-2011 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
I'm looking forward to the pm with the identity of your "good authority."

As to the rest, believe what you will. It's clear that nothing short of your actual participation in a study or access to the details of the ASA's will satisfy your curiosity nor change your point of view. With that said, it has been done, both by management and ALPA. You better keep barking.
Slow,

You normally are pretty accurate, but I can't go down your path on this one.

The FACT is that the outsourced products (RJ's) flown by fellow ALPA pilots in the DAL network have suffered MUCH more and been relatively stagnant or shrunk while NON-ALPA outsourced flying has grown.

The analysis I would like to see is much like what Bar states...How much money has DAL inc. WASTED on duplicate management/training/scheduling and other functions..........and GUARANTEED PROFITS to OTHER companies. The number might not be a amazing as some would want to believe, but it'd still be nice to have the facts...rather than "trust me, you wouldn't like it."

You are correct that the furoulghs are happening "beneath" us (for NOW anyway). That is not the point.

When the furloughs were happening here there was not a system in place to keep ALPA Delta Pilots flying Delta Passengers in a seniority honoring system.

Also, we have so much faith in the ability of ALPA to negotiate "multi-layered" and "effective" furlough mitigation strategies. Along with the TLV staffing formulas, other work rules, etc.; it would stand to reason that furloughs would have been much less severe and MORE pilots would be protected and defended with a better PWA (mainline vs. a whipsawed RJ feeders' CBA).


I disagree with the notion some have stated that "Unity solves all problems." Not true, but Unity DOES mitigate many problems and serve to keep the focus of everyone on the same goal, rather than multiple groups striving for disparate goals.

We supposedly belong to a pilot union, not a pilot dis-union.

OFF TOPIC: (Besides the fact that single-list flying from top to bottom is safer from an experience standpoint. No more 5 yr. CA's...More like every CA is 9-15 yrs and FOs spend 10-15 years being an "apprentice", learning from the more experienced pilots, therefore preparing BETTER captains for the next generation to learn from.)