Originally Posted by
slowplay
There is something else.
All payscales don't stop at 12 years. Delta's (and many majors) do. In the regional industry it is not uncommon to 18-20 year scales for Captains. In the case of DCI, longevity is used as a whipsaw. The average Compass Captain is at 3 year scale for pay ($67/hr) and benefits. The average Comair Captain is at top of scale for pay ($99/hr) and benefits. The rest of DCI is someplace in between. The FO differences aren't as dramatic as those payscales generally stop at 8-10 years. Compass has a flow that for a period of time will reset their longevity. Comair doesn't. From Delta's perspective, even though their payscale is relatively aligned that makes a CMR pilot about 20% more expensive than the rest of DCI.
Longevity is something to consider for how you would bring DCI flying back to Delta and is going to be something the UAUA/CAL MEC 's are going to have to overcome in their negotiation if they're to retain CAL vice UAUA scope. For example, Delta's CRJ-900 rate is about $112/hr. That's about the same as M88 or A320 FO at 12 years, and is over $10 per hour greater than the DCI average at that longevity. Where do you think those pilots would bid? Generally to where the money/QOL dictates. Then compare that to the pilot cost per block hour where that flying is currently being done.
It's not a simple problem, in my view. Does this address your question, or did I miss it?
Slow,
If the Regionals are so much more efficient and cost effective than us, and I'm talking about the total cost (marketing, Financing, insurance, fuel, maintenance etc)
then where are all the successful stand alone Regionals?
While they obviously look good on a direct Pilot to Pilot cost per hour, I wonder how they fare when fuel, marketing (oh thats right they don't do marketing) etc are thrown in.
Scoop