Originally Posted by
dosbo
Why don't you just read my post. It's written in english and no translation is necessary. There is no need for you to try and put words into my mouth.
No I don't want all regional pilots to quit, I want them to make/demand more money for the size of aircraft they fly. For new entrants to the industry, I want them to value their personal investment in time and money more.
Since furlough I have turned down two "jet for job" opportunities. One SkyWest and the other with Republic, I didn't even put in for the go jet position. My point with this statement is that even at second year pay you cannot support a family on that unless you: live with mom and dad, have a wife/girlfriend that subsidises your hobby, or have a trust fund to draw from.
I have fallen on my sword in refusing to support the low wages at regionals by refusing to return to them even at second year pay. So I am not saying someone should do anything I have not already done.
Unless we all work to improve this career it will continue to circle the drain. That includes, CFI's, Regional Pilots, LCC Pilots, and Major Pilots.
Management, RAA, and ATA just love to segregate us into different groups so they can play us against each other.
You seem like an okay guy. A tad naive perhaps, but you mean well.
I understand exactly what you are saying. I put it in my own word to show how silly it is though.
There is zero chance of getting every regional pilot to quit, as I said, or demand more money, as you said, tomorrow. It's never going to happen. You said you turned down regional jobs because they are below you. I'm in the same boat. I'd never go back to a regional at this point either. But as long as there is a supply of young pilots trying to get a toehold in this industry there will be crappy regionals.
And the whole thing is set up by mainline managements with the help of mainline pilots. It's crazy UAL pax are flown by non UAL pilots...yet I bet today most domestic only itineraries on UAL will be flown by non UAL pilots.
If you ask management they'll say they HAVE to out source in order to compete. In a world where the difference between 1st page on priceline.com and 5th page is $3, every expense counts.
Now that several fleets have been parked and pilot ranks have shrunk I bet main line pilots realise the mistake of letting scope go for silly short term gains. But then there are a few that mistakenly blame the regional pilots who took the jobs mainline gave them, saying "if they just demanded as much money as we make..."
If they demanded as much they wouldn't have been given the flying in the first place.