You are right it is what it is and I'm getting tired of that term btw. Also I can whine all I want....Also reminiscing isn't whining. XJ management has nothing to do with it....XJ of today is a casualty of the Delta/NWA merger ......It wasn't against pcl pilots it was against being owned by pinnacle and not being the XJ I use to love. Again I can reminisce with my old XJ buds all I want.