Old 02-21-2011 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
In the 1960s, UAL was hiring high school students with a PPL.

There is already a shortage now. 2 years ago 747-400 PICs got $16K/month in China. Now $22K, and the $16K salary is reserved for Airbus capts. ERJ-145 Capts get $12K/month.

Colgan IS having trouble filling classes. ALL the regionals have reduced their mins. Our mins were 4000TT and 1000 PIC Jet. After about 3 or 4 months it dropped to 2500 TT and 1000 Turbine TT.

I just talked to a SkyWest Capt, and he said they were having no problems NOW, but that was going to change soon. He said his buddy is a FltInstr, and pretty much every FltInstr he new was training foreign students-no US students.

The Flight/Duty/Rest rules will be in effect before 1 Aug, and the ATP requirement in effect by 1 Aug 2012.

DAL has 900 pilots retiring in one calendar year....may have to move the age to 70, or get rid of it.

I am almost certain that the major airlines will have to start an Ab-Initio type of hiring/training, just like the US mil and most of the foreign airlines have. Here in the US (and Canada/Australia), we have supplied the world with pilots for a LOT of years. That will soon be coming to an end. Probably a LOT of flying will move to mainline, because there won't be enough Regional pilots, and the Ab-Initio programs required will be too expensive for them. If you were a typical HS kid, would you rather to Ab-Initio for UAL, or for Trans States?

cliff
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PS-I didn't even realize how bad the situation is at some of the airlines now!!!
Hate to be that guy, but isnt the ATP rule Aug 2013, not 2012? If anything, that gives the airlines some time to hire the sub 1000 hour pilots (like it or not, 500 hour hiring seems to be coming again) before the rule takes effect (although the pilots need the ATP BEFORE Aug 1 2013) but a year into the start of the age 65 retirees.

I've heard this phrase, "Ab-Initio" thrown around a lot and I am not quite sure of its meaning regarding aviation. Would that be like Multi-Crew or would that be an airline taking in people and going from 0-ATP?
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