We do need a jump in pay the first day of a new contract, to bring our 737s to SWA's rates at least. But, we can also gain from work rule gains, min day pay, upping the min hours for vacation and training, etc. Maybe bring back allnight pay, holiday pay, bring up per diem, etc. And, we can't forget scope from RJs or code share partners. Everything has to be looked at, but we all know we do need a fairly large increase day 1 in pay, period.