Originally Posted by
Good Beer
Wrong.
A no vote sends a the message that the negotiating committee and the MEC do not know the minds of the pilot group, and therefore have no place negotiating a contract in the first place. Whether this is true or whether this due to a failure of communication won't matter.
For any meaningful neg to go forward would probably require an new neg committee and possibly MEC...tick..tock..tick...tock no leverage just wasted time, and time is money.
I know many of the righteous and angry folk on here will jump on the first line as being exactly the message they want. Still doesn't make it a smart or prudent choice. Putting your mad before money.
Wrong. I support the negotiating committee. I don't support the LOA. I don't want them to have carte blanche and be able to negotiate and approve a TA. The membership (us) have that right. There is no need to fire them, just send them back to the table. If they choose to quit, so be it. I hope they don't.
Time is money? Man, I've heard more about Time Value of Money since a college econ class. What's it worth? Let's say that a captain will make an extra 7K/year from the LOA (less for an FO). Maybe 5K/year after taxes. Let's say that it takes 3 years to get a contract.
History says we will get back pay. Probably equal to 3%/year based on the past. So what is the time value of this 15K? There are assumptions that need to be made to make a guess, but it will most likely be extremely small. So we are willing to gut our US based bidpacks for this chump change?
1. I would be happy to see the new safety programs as a stand alone issue. They should be.
2. Per diem increase. This is real chump change.
3. Afghanistan override. Unless you are a pathfinder pilot, odds are that this will be worth virtually nothing.
4. 4.A.2.b. You think this is adequate?
5. So it comes back to the Time Value of a 3% raise. I'd rather keep SIBA flying and have US based pilots doing the international flying that will be picked up by the FDAs. If you aren't planning on bidding an FDA, this is a terrible deal.