listen guys, Saying my regional is better than your regional is like saying my poop stinks better than your poop. I was just hoping that the pilots of Pinnacle holdings could have voted in a contract that brought the bar up a little. How are we supposed to negotiate when they waive your new contract in our faces saying that this is the new standard. Your pay rates are slightly better than our SIX YEAR OLD CONCESSIONARY rates and most of the work rules are still below ours. I wanted you guys to truely get an industry leading contract because it's nothing but good for all of us. The other problem is that there is no education for those entering the regional life. Most think that all regionals are the same and that is simply not true. All regionals are bad for the profession as a whole but unfortunately at this point it is one of very few ways to get to a major. As long as guys that dont know any better keep showing up to the places with subpar contracts then the whipsawing will continue.