Originally Posted by
golfandfly
Not sure exactly what are you saying here. We opened Pandora's box by approving the last FDA LOA. Many of us tried to tell you that it was a bad deal. Guess what, it was.
So what is FDX going to do if we vote against the TA? I'll tell you, I'm not concerned. Do they really want to hire foreign pilots during contract negotiations? When we stay consistently undermanned? Some of you have already forgotten about 4.A.2.b. I haven't. I don't think we'll get that money back, but we can do better than a cost of living increase.
I don't care if people bid MD-11/HKG. If the current deal is good enough for them, they probably should. For those that are already in HKG, I really don't care too much about your current situation. You knew the deal and you bid it. Pretty much goes for the early 777 pilots too. However, I know that the 777 is the real future for a large group of us, so it doesn't make sense to teach them a lesson. It really just hurts the pilot group as a whole.
So, let them find new measures to make it work. It's their job. If they hire Irish pilots to fly intra Europe, so be it. Hopefully we can finally get united enough to show some of that intestinal fortitude that you mentioned.
Why is everyone so scared about what the company will do if we don't roll over? Honestly, I just don't get it.
Voting is open, I've already added one for the NO column...
In short I am saying , FDA's are not leverage, anymore. The first round, they had a leverage like quality and I voted NO on that one too.
I am not claiming the world will fall apart with a no vote, actually saying quite the opposite. Life will go on, in this case with less money than we would have if the TA passes.
As far as the deal on the table, it makes sense to me. We are not going to get hurt by taking this deal. That is my opinion, and those of you that think the FDA is not worthy of the gains in this TA, then I am sure you will vote accordingly.
Unfortunately the only way we will know who was "correct" is if it fails, that is what I find funny about those claiming the lone dissenting vote in the FDA v1.0, was "right". Well he was right that it was a sub par piece of... It passed and, and with the exception of some F/O slots has been successful. We will never know how much more we could of got, because it passed. Now it is time to stop looking in the rear-view mirror on the FDA and improve it for those wanting to go in the future.
That is all, I don't like 4a2b or FDA's, but voting this down will not help our cause. That is the way I see it.