Sonny , the way i read the ta is that u lose ur payrate three months i to 2012- thats right- u revert bAck to first year cal or ual pay- please reread it.

We all know mgmnt will let the date come and go and get a deal struck with the unions that if a ual guy accepts cal he will forgo going back to ual to eliminate any increase training cost. I totally see that coming.

If cal were allowed to hire off the street while ual peeps stayed furloughed- their would be a pretty large battle cry

We all need to just quit speculating and just wait for tk to ramp up- then we can start speculating on numbers.
Flight plan is supposed to come out soon/ if not already as per the ssc report