Got it. The picture is starting to form. The reason why VA pilots don't stand up for themselves and undercut is because of ALPA. ALPA gave away scope, so VA pilots have to accept substandard wages. It has NOTHING to due with your pilot group. How is it that airlines that fly similar sized aircraft like Delta, Southwest, Alaska, etc., are able to pay the wages they do DESPITE all the miserable failings of ALPA that apparently has created a huge supply of pilots, yet VA can't?

The problem with you is that you are ****ed off at ALPA for whatever reason, and therefore don't feel the need to stand up for yourself. You're going to accept crappy wages as a big FU to ALPA and you don't want any ALPA guy to tell you that what you are doing is a drag on the industry. We're taking steps right now to try to fix scope and the downward spiral in pay over the past decade and guys like you.....well.....you'll do your best to rationalize why you're doing the opposite.

I'm done. I'm going to type out ramblings about how you guys need to stand up for yourselves and get a total compensation package that you guys deserve, and you're going to tell me it's all ALPA's fault and bring in TWA or US Air or God knows what else to rationalize your pilot group's actions.