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Old 03-13-2011 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetjok
So let me understand your position Fdxlag, you feel very strongly that our union, ALPA, should negotiate for all the wants and needs of our pilot group, but at the same time you're critical of the UAW for doing the exact same thing for their constituents? Am I mis-interpreting your post? Let's face it, it wasn't only the UAW that "killed the goose", because it was the auto companies themselves, in large part, that allowed it to happen. And just so that we're clear, I'm not talking only about salary and benefits. It was the way in which they did their business, as well as the poor quality control of their product, as well as their inability to correctly identify what their target market wanted or needed.

That said, a case can then be made for how and why our company negotiates with us, in the way that they do. Perhaps they don't want their product to go the way of the Ford Falcon or the Plymouth Fury, or the Pontiac GTO. Thankfully, our management is much more in tune to what the public wants and needs, and the company needs a stable pilot force, so that they can market our product, knowing that our clients packages will absolutely, positively get there on time, because unlike other types of businesses, if their package doesn't get there on time, then we carried it for free. I believe that therein lies our true leverage.

JJ
You bet I want alpa to negotiate for us. Most of what I want ALPA to do will not kill the golden goose (4A2b, aqccepted fares). If ALPA said close Mem and move to Palm Springs I would probably not vote for the same ALPA representation the next go round. If FDX was hurting and said we need to kill the A Fund, I would expect ALPA to negotiate in good faith and get me my fair share after the MEC got their cut of course.

And it is hard to build a decent Nova to compete with a camry when there is a $5K penalty on the Nova to start. That will affect quality, safety, reliability, and appeal of the nova. That is why the Camry won the battle.