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Old 03-16-2011 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Generally true, but many do not see Scope that way .I will admit that with the AS code share and the JV's more senior guys are realizing that scope is not a junior pilot section of the contract. That said, there are always a few that realize they are where they will retire, and it becomes all about money. That is the minority though.
I would agree with that as well. I think that section 1 is gaining attention of more and more pilots at every level. Its not just a pilot issue either. The other work groups can be union or non union, that is not for us to decide. But either way I would like to see more pressure from most of them in that regard as well (even non union groups can exert pressure...namely give us XYZ or we will unionize, and the company usually at least tries to throw them a compromise to make them happy enough not to unionize).

In any case, scope used to be mostly an RJ issue. Even that has negative consequences for the bottom 90%+ of the list. Throw in narrow and wide body mainline equipment and the entire list is being flanked by 3 fronts. An awesome section 3 becomes less and less important proportionate to the size of the holes that the company can use to avoid section 3 in the first place (and ditto for every other section). We get great work rules, they can outsource to company X who doens't have them. Ditto for pay, retirement, health care, etc. Scope is the page upon which every single other thing in the contract is written on. Most pilots need more than one more contract before they retire, and a lot need way more than that.

And its important not to wholesale demonize the uber senior anyway, as not all, and in fact probably most, are unwilling to sacrifice everyone else as collateral damage anyway. You will always have a few of the type who will sell their own mothers down the river for a few pieces of silver, but I think that is the minority judging from what I've seen.