Tony-I agree the whole package needs to be looked at. But I'm still scratching my head wondering why we went in so low on our openers? It really ****es me off. And I feel the Fred smith Falcon 20 suck ups are still controlling our union. Why the hell are we asking 50 dollars less than UPS? And this is our openers!! And I also feel ALPA cut the legs out from our brothers up in SDF. Wasn't ALPA and the IPA talking, or was ALPA just a bunch of pricks towards the IPA? I can't wait for another 10 years to past so we can rid ourselves of the Fred smith suck ups.