Originally Posted by jungle

In some worlds any difference of opinion is viewed as anti-union/pro-management. Unions can do a lot of good, but that doesn't mean you have to embrace the whole cliche, turn left and ignore reality.



Thanks for your kind indulgence, I don't have any plan for Nirvana or Hell, and the road is never smooth. It might be smoother to start from a defendable position though.

What is clear is many facts about our position were given little thought, and the present turmoil has brought that home.

My humble suggestion is that we may be forced to restate our position and clarify exactly what we are bargaining for, because most of us don't really understand at this point.

It has been made very clear what we can't bargain for, and that we can make a mistake.