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Old 03-19-2011, 01:56 PM
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Nevets
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Originally Posted by goaround2000 View Post
It is believed to be a steering issue, or at least that's the rumor.

Unless there was willful non-compliance, they will be covered by ASAP under any and all circumstances.
As long as there is not enough damage to constitute an accident. I don't think ASAP covers accidents.

Also the FAA usually busts people for sterile cockpit in situations like this...sterile violations are consider willfull so no asap help there. Of course it's theoretically possible they were in 100% compliance with sterile...
The XJT ASAP MOU does NOT disallow an ASAP report because of an accident.

Also, Sully didnt get busted for violating the sterile cockpit regulation. Just saying...

Sole source part of ASAP might be an issue? Not saying it would not be accepted because of this but many cases must be a sole source to be accepted......
The XJT ASAP MOU does NOT disallow a report because it's not sole source.

Holy ASAP ignorance Batman!

As mentioned above, if the ASAP is submitted in a timely fashion (24 hours from the closing of the day), and there was not any willful noncompliance, the crew will be protected. It is the agreement we maintain with the FAA regarding certificate action and retraining; and it's the agreement we maintain with the company via our MOU for punitive action (please see unionized carriers with ASAP programs).
Not all ASAPs are created equal. Especially when there is no NMB recognized bargaining agent to sign on behalf of the pilots. This is precisely why I suggest to everyone to read their ASAP MOU.
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