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04-08-2011, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by blue34

Hello!

I have hundreds of Beech King air B200&B300 co-pilot time.
But I couldn't logged these flight time as "total flight time",
due to my country(ICAO country) regulations.
(Since King air is... one men operation aircraft.)

My company had a "company rule" that "King air needs 2 pilot
for operation".(PIC & Co-pilot)
So I logged these flight time on "blank space" of my logbook.

I read checklist, contact ATC, and some time I had the flight
control as a Kingair co-pilot.
Of course I know King air aircraft system well, and I can also
fly as PIC by air law. But problems is...logging king air co-pilot time.

I heard, in US, we can add these flight time as "SIC" or "Dual"
depends on operation. And in JAR operation, I heard we can also add it...

At US FAR part61.51, there are logging time definition. There are...
Solo time, PIC time, SIC time, Instrument time, Training time.
However, the "Dual time" is not defined at part61.51.

*Could you explain the "Dual time"?

*Does FAA admit my Kingair co-pilot time as "total flight time"?
*Dual or SIC???

Thank you for your help!

No you probably cannot log it for FAA purposes. Not even total time, it was basically an airplane ride. I hope you were paid well!

If it was a single-pilot certificated King Air the only way you can log the time as SIC would be if the operation was conducted under an FAA-approved Operations Specification which required two pilots, such as a 135 or even 121 operation.

Company and insurance rules don't qualify, the requirement has to come from the FAA (FAR or OPSPEC).

As far as dual...

1. The other pilot would have to be an FAA certificated CFI.
3. He would have to sign each logbook entry, and enter his CFI number.
2. Legitimate training would need to take place. You might be able to get away with ten hours in a situation like this, but hundreds? No way, you would get your certificates revoked for logging bogus flight time.

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