Originally Posted by
Regularguy
Baron50:
You're a bit arrogant on this one. I will only tell you this I was there, at every MEC meeting, worked directly with Roger Hall for over a year right up to the strike (and after on two major committees). I was even a part of the infamous Hawaii MEC meeting (if that rings a bell in your historic memory).
I will take your word that you "were there." However, I am not sure you were in the closed sessions and conference calls. The Hawaii meeting was in October, after the strike, this is where we wrote the policy of who would be a UAL scab, I wrote most of it.
Needless to say without any further info revealed I had the inside skinny on the subject and the information. I also believe I still have much of it stored in boxes in my basement. So be careful about your facts they are a bit screwed.
My boxes are bigger than yours.
"Take it from one who actually wrote the history."
Oh and this statement is flat out wrong! "but the fact is, the B-scale was always on the table by ALPA." It was not even presented by the company until after the Denver MEC when the response to the across the contract cuts was first made!
You may be correct on the timming of their first B-Scale proposal, I was not on the negotiating committee. They started out asking for a 24% cut in October of "83". That was the bucket they wanted filled, they didn't care how it was done. Sometime after that, it may very well be around the July Denver meeting, they advanced the B-scale idea. It was not until that meeting that it was obvious to some of us the fight was on.
Ferris wanted to attend that meeting, we said no, apparently very irritated, he then appointed his strike committee. I do know, because of the Cal strike, Braniff, Reagan, a lousy economy, and AMR's undercutting our position, we would have to do something with a B-scale, just not a union busting B-scale.
May I ask Baron if you have done a bunch of fishing in Alaska? I might know who you are???? Dave M???
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NO I haven't, I though Dave M has passed, hope not, he was a great guy.