Originally Posted by
eaglefly
Gotta disagree (BTW, I could barely read many parts of that post...it was a grammatical nightmare). To say with certainty that no pilots will transfer with aircraft is extremely presumptuous at this stage (unless of course, you are deliberately trying to instill fear).
The fact is, the current Eagle is spending huge sums of money hiring and training pilots and cannot transfer one or two aircraft/month to another carrier as it would take a couple of years to complete any reasonable transfer number. In order for any whipsaw scenario to be effective, Eagle will have to transfer several dozen (at minimum), so either another carrier will have to have perhaps 500 EMB pilots sitting around being paid and flying nothing and be over staffed by that hideous percentage or they'll have to come already qualified with the aircraft. The Eagle CBA already has successorship language ensuring an orderly process of integration with those pilots that tansfer (apparently you must be unaware of this).
Should Eagle just transfer the planes and lay off those pilots, it would take most carriers a year of hiring and training to get the whole fleet up and running with the planes parked and the former customers signing up for frequent flyer miles with the competition never to return. Interesting to note AMR is supposedly only interested in transferring the EMB's and not the CRJ's, eh ?
You sound fresh and new to Eagle (if you're at Eagle at all) and that's cool, but I think you need to think this through a bit more.
@Eaglefly
I totally agree with with you Sir, what U are saying makes TOTAL business sense......
How many pilots do U think Eagle must have Hired in the last 6 months & will hire in the next 6 momths. I think abt 500 so far in the last 6 months & another 500 in the rest of 2011.. Plus at least 200 upgrades this year.
Assuming a training cost of a meagre amount of $10,000 per pilot times the 1200 pilots. And we both know it costs a lot more to train a fresh FO or upgrade a FO to captain.
That is a lot of money to be spent by a company who knows there entire existance or the way they will exist is at stake......
Doesn't make good business sense..... Infact Doesn't make any business sense...... Neither by Eagle nor AMR ....
Let's assume hypothetically, that untill recently, both AMR & Eagle mgmt didn't have a clue that this could happen, they have no idea what the future is, then why would any company invest more money for a unknown, uncertain future.
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hey would IDEALLY stop all the spending till they know what is their future, including all current classess & all new upgrades & New Hiring........
But they are NOT doing that....... They are doing the opposite...
So, reading between the lines, there is something else also which is going on behind the scenes & headlines.......
Also, if the entire EMB were to be given to a new company to fly without pilots, where will they get they required captains to fly for them on Day1, will AMR risk it's flying & operations coming to Halt to save some money.......... NO
Even though I am not Eagle employee yet, but my business sense is telling me that there is this is all a show, there is definitely something else behind the scenes......
May be Pilots, Cabin Crew or ground staff contract renewals is due & it is a scare tactic or something else.