Funny, Carl. I just present FACTS.

FACT #1: The Delta MEC, led by Lee Moak, extracted the highest bankruptcy claim value (in claim $$) of ANY of the 4 airlines that went through bankruptcy.

FACT #2: The Delta MEC, led by Lee Moak, extracted the highest cash return on that claim and put more money in DAL pilots' pockets than ANY of the other 3 network carriers that went through the identical bankruptcy process.

FACT #3: The Delta MEC, led by Lee Moak, extracted the highest note value of ANY of the 3 airlines that had their pensions terminated in bankruptcy.

FACT #4: The Delta MEC, led by Lee Moak, and now with the participation of the former NWA MEC, was the FIRST to negotiate an agreement PRIOR to a merger, which resulted in REAL cash put in your pocket in the form of shares of stock of the post merger company.

FACT #5: The Delta MEC, led by Lee Moak, with the participation of the former NWA MEC, negotiated a contract that now has DAL pilots paid higher than ANY other pilot group among our peer group.

FACT #6: The Delta pilots have received larger percentage raises the past 3 years than ANY other airline.

FACT #7: The Delta MEC, led by Lee Moak, with the participation of the former NWA MEC, negotiated a contract that put 6.5% of pay into pilots' pockets in February in the form of profit sharing.

FACT #8: APA, with their clear objectives, has achieved nothing.

Having said all that, it is my OPINION, that we are still grossly underpaid for the expertise we bring to the table; but it is also my OPINION that the NMB could care less about that.

Those are the facts, plain and simple. It doesn't mean I'm happy with where we are, but they do speak for themselves.

Meanwhile, DPA can't meet a single objective they lay out for themselves, nor can APA. And yet you guys support them, because they both TALK tough.

"RHETORIC not RESULTS". There's another bag tag for you. No charge.