Originally Posted by
Pineapple Guy
Resorted to posting in multiple threads now, eh? Fair enough.
I'll let the forum audience decide whether Hawaiian is in our peer group. They have a fleet of 36 airplanes and fly to an impressive 15 cities from 4 different Hawaiian destinations. 452 total pilots.
So, assuming they DO count, then we are 2nd out of 7. Care to comment on any of the others, and explain why ALPA (who represents Hawaiian, BTW) and by extension the DAL MEC should be replaced?
The management guy has time to post your responses in multiple threads, but he never answered my question about Hawaiian being a Delta peer either...the one where Hawaiian's creditors were paid 100 cents on the dollar in their sham bankruptcy. Delta pilots were the second largest creditor in our trip through the courts and got 60 cents on the dollar. The largest creditor only got 46 cents...
As he does his seat math, he fails to mention that Hawaiian 767 pay is also their A330 pay. Delta pays the A330 at $205 per hour compared to HAL's $191 per hour. Of course, we could use his same seat cost "argument"...Hawaiian's 767ER's seat 264 people, Delta's 216. And our 757's in international configuration only seat 160 at the exact same payrate...is that seat cost argument still sounding good? No spin there...
He also conveniently omits that Delta's 124 seat 737 also pays $174 per hour, and our 124 seat A319 pays $168/hr, and our 125 seat DC-9 pays $157 per hour...maybe we have entered the spin zone! Oh, and how many hours was the
average Delta pilot compensated last year? 87 hours per month, nowhere near the guarantees...Hawaiian? Maybe it's time for the DPA forum to do some more Form 41 research.
I wonder how long you'll have to wait for for your answers. The DPA guys jumped on me for being gone 10 hours on Easter Sunday.