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Old 04-27-2011 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by alfaromeo
Carl did a great job of making up words I did not say and then twisting it into some conspiracy theory. Here is the flaw in Carl's argument; if I really ignored the majority and only did what I wanted, why did the vast majority (over 90%) of my council approve of my work? Were they all fooled? I still see people that thank me for my work during a very difficult time. That is what made all the hassle worthwhile.

I was wrong to personalize this. I shouldn't have said "you" I should have just left it to this webboard and the ALPA webboard as a group. The issues discussed here and the opinions that are the majority here do not match the majority of the pilot group. They don't match the majority of the pilots I fly with. They don't match the majority of the pilots that I talked to in the pilot lounge, at social meetings, flying the line, calling on the phone, and all the other ways I reached out to hear the views of my pilots. Surely you would concede that the number of pilots that post often on this board and the ALPA board are a small percentage of the total pilot group.

I think you are a smart guy and you should probably get involved in the union. Again, I apologize for making it personal with you. Sign up for some committee work and find out how the union works. You will find a bunch of guys just like you that are busting their humps to get more for the pilots. You will also find that if there were any easy answers, people would have just done it. The issues are much more complicated than they seem, kind of like how flying a jet is more complicated than pushing the autopilot button. Every organization needs new blood to keep the energy up.

Hi Alfa,

I am a lurker here and a regular line pilot. I am wondering what part of the minority of pilots on APC or alpa boards the rest of the group disagree with?

Seems to me most guys on here think

1. our section 1 is a total mess.

2. our pay isnt industry leading.

3. dont trust or are not sure they trust Dalpa/alpa.

I can think of a few guys who dont give a crap about anything other then pay BUT they are a handfull.

So what are pilots telling you? because from your statement i feel like we fly for different airlines.