Originally Posted by
sweptback
Under the unlikely event that unstacking happens, we have contractual limits on how many people can be affected.
So for the guys that do get unstacked, it's basically "tough sh1T"? Not the case with line bid. Again, find me some language in the XJT CBA that comes anywhere near what unstacking is.
Originally Posted by
sweptback
I still don't think you understand that unstacking happens on line building before the lines are even bid upon.
So you've talked to the XJT scheduling committee rep and seen how XJT does it? I'll say it AGAIN, the XJT line bid/LIW system is NOT the one you had at ASA. How many times does that have to be repeated?
Originally Posted by
sweptback
I don't care who builds the lines, neither the company or the union will be satisfied with all the trips left over falling on the same days. They would rebuild the lines, shuffle things around, until the distribution was a bit more uniform. Then you can do your magic in open time, LIW, whatever, but you'll still get whatever line the company chooses to build for you if nothing goes through.
See above.
Originally Posted by
sweptback
If you guys seriously (and I truly dispute this) can bid one line working weekends and holidays, completely drop it and build another line from the pot that has all the desirable days off, then why do you even bid for lines?
Again, just like you expect XJT to understand PBS, you should try to understand XJT's system. Instead of calling B.S. on it.
Originally Posted by
sweptback
I understand that your complaint is that there's a lot of pitfalls and gotchas in PBS. I understand that you have seen PBS at pilot groups that don't have the workrules that we do go awry. But, I will say this. I have averaged 2-3 additional days off under PBS so far (compared to the lines the company used to build), and have the same amount of credit per month. I have literally doubled my vacation time under PBS. How is that bad in any way?
Yep, that is good for you guys. AGAIN, talk to the XJT scheduling chair. There's just NO WAY possible the current PBS system will work with our CBA. Which just brings the discussion back full circle, inheriting it will be ANOTHER concession for the majority of pilots on the combined list.
Originally Posted by
sweptback
One last question for you. Have you ever worked under a PBS? What system was it? If not, where are these negative views coming from? CAL?
Have you ever worked under the XJT line bidding system? Because where does all the ignorance about it come from?
And if you want to sling names, that I purposely DIDN'T quote, have at it man.