Originally Posted by
Andy
Dubinsky: "We don’t want to kill the golden goose. We just want to choke it by the neck until it gives us every last egg." Pyrrhic Victory.
Need I mention summer 2000 and the long term damage that the pilots did to their relationship with coworkers? Pyrrhic Victory.
Whiteford: Traded away unlimited 70 seat RJs to 'save' the pension. Pyrrhic Victory.
How about the work rule changes offered up by management to fix the WB vs NB work rules? You know, the one the membership turned down in spite of it being a good deal for the pilots because there was vitriolic hatred toward Tilton? Pyrrhic Victory.
Plenty of other examples. The methods used by the union to deal with management have been nothing short of something out of the Keystone Kops.
There has been very little thought by the union leadership and members of the negative consequences of their actions. The only thing that's been important to the union is 'how much this will hurt management'. And people like you wonder why UAL pilots suffer.
Southwest's management could be brought in to run United and I have no doubt that the pilots would effectively tick them off. And then the pilots would again complain about how bad management is. Maybe, just maybe, the entire blame isn't in management's corner. I know that's a horrific thought; a subject never broached among UAL pilots.
That was really well said. It is not Southwest management that makes Southwest successful. It is the way that Southwest management and SWAPA work together. Southwest pilots have never gotten a massive raise. When they were paid below market, they didn't complain and start a work slow down. They came to work, they did their job, and they got a respectable raise. Look where that got them.
The last part of your post was so good I feel the need to repeat it as I have never seen it worded so well...
Southwest's management could be brought in to run United and I have no doubt that the pilots would effectively tick them off. And then the pilots would again complain about how bad management is. Maybe, just maybe, the entire blame isn't in management's corner. I know that's a horrific thought; a subject never broached among UAL pilots.