Originally Posted by
zoooropa
It was said in the conference call and the meetings in Denver, but he also mentions it in the same letter....
"What we didnt report was that the 17 E170s and the 13 E135/145 regional jets we fly under the Frontier brand actually lost about $15 million."
And
"We also announced a revised CPA agreement with Delta, which will allow us to move the majority of the E170s from loss-making flying at Frontier to profitable CPA flying with Delta. Thats a good outcome for everyone. However it doesnt solve all our network and fleet challenges. We still have to reassess our E135/145 flying and also reassess how we manage our network in Milwaukee."
The remaining three 170's in the branded op will be going to the UAL CPA.
The 135/145's are becoming "frontier express", and will operate on a pro-rata agreement between chautuaqau and frontier airlines. This move doesn't save money but it moves the branded loss over to the fixed fee side.
Brand will only operate 320, 319, and 190's.
so the 145's are basically re-arranging deck chairs on the titanic. I hoping we just use the 135's for the EAS stuff (MBL for the moment is actually quite full) upgrade the rest to the 145's coming off of CO which should make things a little better. Interesting comparisons though out of MKE for load factors.
F9:
markets which are all or singificantly Airbus or Ejet
91.2%
.. MCO
88.5%
.. LAS
87.8%
.. DEN
87.4%
.. FLL
86.6%
.. LAX
83.9%
.. DFW
82.8%
.. PHX
81.3%
.. RSW
80.7%
.. TUS
78.6%
.. MSP
75.2%
.. PIE
69.3%
.. SAT
63.0%
.. MCI
62.4%
.. RDU
60.9%
.. EWR
58.3%
.. LGA
53.5%
.. BOS
51.6%
.. DCA
Frontier Express (All or mostly ER4/ER3)
84.6%
.. BNA
78.2%
.. DSM
76.8%
.. FNT
73.3%
.. IND
72.7%
.. GRR
69.9%
.. BDL
69.4%
.. STL
67.2%
.. MSN
66.8%
.. GRB
66.5%
.. OMA
64.4%
.. PIT
64.4%
.. ATW
64.2%
.. CMH
62.3%
.. SDF
59.7%
.. PHL
58.5%
.. CLE
56.4%
.. DAY
Air Tran:
AirTran mainline
91.3%
.. MCO
88.4%
.. FLL
88.1%
.. SFO
87.8%
.. RSW
85.9%
.. LAS
85.5%
.. LAX
77.7%
.. PHX
77.2%
.. TPA
73.3%
.. SEA
71.8%
.. ATL
71.5%
.. MSY
70.7%
.. MSP
69.7%
.. SRQ
62.3%
.. DEN
61.2%
.. LGA
51.3%
.. BOS
47.6%
.. BWI
47.4%
.. DCA
Southwest
93.4%
.. PHX
91.0%
.. LAS
86.6%
.. MCO
79.4%
.. TPA
56.9%
.. MCI
55.5%
.. BWI
AirTran FL* operated by Skywest CRJ
64.3%
.. CAK
58.8%
.. IND
57.1%
.. STL
54.1%
.. DSM
52.6%
.. PIT
49.3%
.. OMA
Seems as though f9 is doing better in MKE than expected as far as load factors are concerned. Once the war stops up there regarding the SWA/AT merger MKE could be profitable.