You know shyguy, I think you're going to have a tough time for as long as you can't understand other people's viewpoint. Why did Mesaba guys get longevity credit and a comair guy or xyz airlines didn't? Because Mesaba guys were owned by Pinnacle and Comair isnt. That makes a certain amount of sense. Instead of arguing against Mesaba furloughs getting it, maybe you should be arguing for any furloughed 121 guy should be getting credit..... Then you wouldn't be trying to make one guys life worse, you'd be trying to make another guys life better. Seems like that might be a better attitude.

As for the other half of why give Mesaba guys longevity, look at it from Pinnacle's eyes... you need to hire, a full course training is 2 months, and here you have 150 guys most of whom are previously CRJ qualified, you can get them thru training in a week of indoc, a couple gfs's and a few sims, easily cutting a month off training. You can have those guys done and on the line, like right now. Looks pretty good if you're management. Only one problem, you have to get them to come. Well, throw them a bone, give them second year pay maybe that'll entice them to come. The more that come the less of a staffing issue Pinnacle had.

Finally, it may seem like a mess now, but I really think they did everyone a favor. Instead of having 150 furloughs and 200 new hires, they have 0 furloughs and 50 new hires, or how ever the numbers work out. The point being, Pinnacle and Colgan were both hiring, you think it's a Charlie Foxtrot now? Imagine if all the furloughs were on the street and we were talking about.. ok so.. we're going to staple the furloughs but the guys who got hired in 2010 are fine. Does that seem more fair? I think bringing the furloughs back to work really solved a lot of long term problems. I'm not super familiar with past precedent, lots of guys like to point out furloughs have been stapled plenty in the past, but have the other airlines involved ever been hiring when the furloughs were stapled? I think our situation is somewhat unique in that regard.

Lastly, why didn't Pinnacle adjust everyone's longevity for pay purposes? Why would they? They could adjust 60 Mesaba guys as a way to entice them to come, if they had to fix all the Pinnacle guys you're talking about giving 1200 guys 2 months increases, it might not matter for one guy, but 1200? The longevity thing is fixed going forward and you got a bonus check, I think that might be as good as it gets....