Did I say anything in particular that you disagree with, or is the emoji all you've got? Let's think this through..

PILOT A: Distinguished career. Works hard to improve his resume, education and character. Meticulously prepares for interview. Displays his character, technical knowledge, and interpersonal skills for the mainline interview panel. Gets hired. Hopes to work with similar caliber professionals until retirement.

PILOT B: Picks his nose in the cockpit. Works hard trolling APC all day. Loves GIFs but can't spell words or use proper punctuation. Shows regional hiring personnel that he can fog a mirror. Sits as an FO for 16 years until he flows to mainline. Hopes to look even cooler walking through the terminal wearing sunglasses.

American: We've never met PILOT B but he can fly a plane. Let's make PILOT A sit two feet from PILOT B for 6 hours per day, 4 days per week, for the next 25 years. Because we value our professional pilots.

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Pretty sure Pilot A still picks his nose

I see you have a hard time with sarcasam

If that's the excuse you want to go with, then fine. I've already moved on.

You're such a weirdo.

My dad always put my pants on for me, but I turned out alright

Lol 24 people selected for a 15k "pilot shortage" to go to flight school and build 1500 hours like everyone else does. Only 19 left. My guess is 6 actually make it through.

So, how big do you think this “initial cadre” to go to UA “by the end of the year” will be?

I was told from a reliable source that we will all be there by the end of 2019. The only thing that could slow that down is being able to staff at awac.


See you on the line at United

I’m not sure if you’re being sarcastic.

United is cutting our flights because we can’t staff. AWA isnt going to sacrifice its own bottom line for the sake of some program. It’s likely they’ll send 1 pilot a month only to justify it on marketing and recruitment pamphlets.

He was being sarcastic.

thanks stryker.


I don't have time to clarify clearly sarcastic comments. quick turns only allow for a walk around and a gyro platter at skybridge. Speaking of which mountain of lamb, here I come.

I asked this at my CPP interview in March. Air Wisconsin will make up 10% of United new hire classes. Express Jet is 25%. Between Commutair, Mesa and that flight school, 50% of the classes will be through CPP.

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From my understanding:

XJT - 25% minimum
Air Wiskey - 10%
C5 - 10%
MESA - it's a mystery

If they are running classes of +40, my goat brain calculates that’s 4 ZW kids per class. Not too shabby.

Up to 4 from the CPP, Doesn't ZW have to agree to let them leave though?

Well, yea.

There are A LOT of hoops/barriers for anyone from ZW going to UA through the CPP.

Foremost being ZW needs to be over staffed.

Mesa....probably 5% to make an even 50%.

Mesa =0 %
One requirement of the cpp is a 4 year degree
How many guys at YV fall into that category? Very few if any I’m willing to bet and United knows that

That’s a pretty shortsighted dig at another pilot group. They were the only real game in town for a lot of people that wanted to live in Houston, not commute, and have a reasonably quick upgrade.

Lame post award.

Nope. Not according to guys who should know that I've talked to and higher management at Air Wis.

All parties I've talked to agree that it would be very unwise for Air Wisconsin to 'hold' successful CPP pilots from receiving a CJO and class date from United, even if they could do so. The 'word on the street' would get out quick and damage Air Wis' ability to attract pilots.

When I spoke with a former Air Wis Pilot, now at United, who recruits part time for United and oversees the CPP for Air Wisconsin, he thought the CPP doesn't give Air Wisconsin the ability to hold a CPP pilot back from going to United.

Words and actions are two different things. We shall see soon right? They did say 3rd quarter 2018 for CPP movement. There's already a thread here titled Air Wisconsin or Go Jet. This place is not only a sinking ship but it's been on fire before it hit the iceberg.

According to a pilot I spoke to, one of the successful CPP pilots was in the crew room today and confirmed he was invited last week to a September class with UAL in DEN.

#itshappening

Reduced flying and better staffing as a result gives an even greater ‘argument’ against hypothesizing that Air Wis management would ‘hold’ a CPP pilot back from United.

Peace.


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You heard of one guy getting a class at UAL. Means nothing. Plus, reduced flying is not a good thing. It’s because they can’t hire or retain.

If they don’t send a couple pilots this year through the CPP that would be the end of this place. They have to send a few to increase morale but it’s going to be minimal. Like ya said. You heard of ONE.

It would be nice to get some info from the company about how the CPP is going. You get a list of employee numbers for those that applied, but nothing about who passed or how it’s going to work. Word of mouth just makes for bad rumors.

I dont think the company is going to make any announcements. Asked MP about it and he sounded like Baghdad Bob.

Two are going to to the second class in September, none to the first class. Class sizes are about 40 each, 2/20 is 5% of each class: AirWis CPP.

UAL has consistently been running two classes a month. If that keeps up (no reason to see why it won’t) that will be 48 AW CPP a year.




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Has anyone gotten the Hogan for the 2018 group? Interviews scheduled?

5% is still movement, but it could take a looong time for even someone who has been here 3-5 years that may have just upgraded

Except half fail the Hogan and half of the rest fail the interview so you might move up sooner than you think! 😜

It’s facebook official, two to go late September. Both really great pilots and people, well deserving.

Did more than one person go to the first October class, or was it just SP?

I’ve talked to a handful that have class dates now but I couldn’t tell you exactly which classes they’re in.

Three total AirWis CPP started N/H class Oct 9th. Two from ORD, one from IAD.


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2-3 per class is better than I thought, hopefully it keeps up at this pace and classes don't get cancelled. Congrats to all who have made it through. We still have no clue what the pass/fail rate is, or what the line looks like seniority wise.

I'm not on the FOAW facebook page, did anyone from AWA get sent to the UA class that started today?

No, none of the three of us recognized any names. Big class too, 40. None of our ExpressJet N/H’s in my class recognized anyone from there also.

One N/H class scheduled for Nov, Dec, Jan (so far). Two AirWis CPP slated to go in Nov.


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