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Old 08-23-2018, 06:32 AM
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Are more pilots leaving the company after the CAE displacements?
For a new-hire MKE and CAE are really the only options except for lengthy reserve in Ord and holding IAD almost impossible now since the base shrink.
Anyone have any clue what’s going on? It just seems like a terrible turn for recruitment and growth.
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Old 08-23-2018, 07:54 AM
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That’s what we all think on the front lines.

But, the investors are VERY good at making money, and they don’t make any decisions unless it’s making their percentage of profit. They must have some long-term plan for CAE/MKE, part of the “big picture” that we can’t see.
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Oh wait, I know! It’s United Airlines ways to take over Delta in ATL and American in CLT, sneaky sneaky! AWAC and long-term plans don’t go together..look at RDU and LGA.
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Originally Posted by stroopwaffle View Post
That’s what we all think on the front lines.

But, the investors are VERY good at making money, and they don’t make any decisions unless it’s making their percentage of profit. They must have some long-term plan for CAE/MKE, part of the “big picture” that we can’t see.
There’s zero long term planning here. Current management saves a couple bucks by opening an out station base and presents the papers to the owners and they say yea that sounds good. Meanwhile trained crews quit because it’s uncommutable and fast forward to december when the blame is placed on united again for poor schedules.
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There’s zero long term planning here. Current management saves a couple bucks by opening an out station base and presents the papers to the owners and they say yea that sounds good. Meanwhile trained crews quit because it’s uncommutable and fast forward to december when the blame is placed on united again for poor schedules.
Ohare has been our biggest recruiting strength. I cannot try and understand what our management is thinking shrinking it to an unobtainable seniority level.
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Ohare has been our biggest recruiting strength. I cannot try and understand what our management is thinking shrinking it to an unobtainable seniority level.
This exactly -- I'm holding a CJO now and seriously re-thinking it with ORD looking less and less achievable. I could deal with MKE until seniority allowed ORD prior to this re-alignment but being stuck permanently in MKE or having to deal with CAE at all looks very unappealing. Makes Republic look more appealing -- the achievable ORD base was the main difference to me when I was applying over the summer.
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+1. Exact same boat. My house, family - wife & 3 kids, live in SE Wisconsin. I accepted a CJO with MKE and ORD being strong options. Now I see 100% of all new hires going to CAE. Who else is rowing this boat?
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+1. Exact same boat. My house, family - wife & 3 kids, live in SE Wisconsin. I accepted a CJO with MKE and ORD being strong options. Now I see 100% of all new hires going to CAE. Who else is rowing this boat?
There's another vacancy bid coming out in a few days, but I think it's realistic to expect CAE for 4-5 months, which means you will likely have it as a base for a month or two after training. You could probably expect MKE by month 5 and ORD reserve by month 7-8.
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There's another vacancy bid coming out in a few days, but I think it's realistic to expect CAE for 4-5 months, which means you will likely have it as a base for a month or two after training. You could probably expect MKE by month 5 and ORD reserve by month 7-8.
This is basically what I was told this week when I got my CJO. I'm in NE Wisconsin (house, wife, 3 kids), and applied specifically for MKE, potentially ORD long-term - told it was possible I could even bypass CAE completely, depending on how classroom seniority falls out (I asked several questions regarding CAE, as it is a concern for me). However, they are expecting MKE seniority to start going up.
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Envoy, SkyWest, ExpressJet are all equal contenders (ORD) at this point with CAE being almost a certainty. Hmmmm.
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