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Originally Posted by Cessnaflyer1213 (Post 2705918)

From Flight Global magazine, "The scope clause in United's contract with the Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA) limits it to 255 large regional aircraft, defined as ones with up to 76 seats and a maximum take-off weight (MTOW) of 39,010kg (86,000lb), and a cap of 450 regional aircraft when the contract becomes amendable in January 2019.

The Chicago-based carrier had 494 regional aircraft, including 235 large regional jets and 238 jets with up to 50 seats, in its feeder fleet at the end of 2016, its latest fleet plan shows."

You are right, it's a factor. Noboby can grow without addressing that. Thanks, but I understand scope. According to these numbers, there's room for 30 large RJs somewhere. Didn't UA recently announce they were buying 25 E175s? I'm sure ZW, and every other contractor, are in some kind of competition for the planes. I'm sure it will be an interesting negotiation soon. Kirby and the UA MEC have already started their war of words. We'll see what the future holds ....

Those are two year old numbers. More current info shows united at capacity with scope.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/analysis-are-us-airlines-at-their-next-scope-crossr-446881/

Those 170/175’s are going to Expressjet, likely taking old 700/900 flying away from gojet. That was a key point in their new contract.

It’s doubtful United pilots would give any more leeway on scope given how much that has already screwed them.

PSA is offering $20,000 on top of the $16,520 to anyone with 1,000 121 hours and willing to accept a rapid upgrade. Coming in with a CL-65 type rating is an extra $5,000 bonus! When you factor in all the per diem and bonuses, you're looking at earning over 100,000 your first year!

You can make that much if not more as soon as you upgrade at airwis without the need for bonuses.

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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon (Post 2705924)

Those are two year old numbers. More current info shows united at capacity with scope.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...crossr-446881/

Those 170/175’s are going to Expressjet, likely taking old 700/900 flying away from gojet. That was a key point in their new contract.

It’s doubtful United pilots would give any more leeway on scope given how much that has already screwed them.

Where did you hear that??

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Originally Posted by Melit (Post 2706195)

Where did you hear that??

All over expressjet thread.

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Originally Posted by Melit (Post 2706195)

Where did you hear that??

There’s a clause in their new contract that if they don’t get the 175’s their pay goes back into negotiation. Management over there basically told them that they need to take their new contract if they want new airplanes.

Sure, something weird could happen but I wouldn’t count on it.

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Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2706204)

All over expressjet thread.

APC is not a good source for info...

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Originally Posted by Melit (Post 2706222)

APC is not a good source for info...

Take a gander at their latest TA.

Air Wisconsin is top notch pay/benefits. They always have been. My main concern is will a privately held company (mostly older ready for retirement ownership) want to invest billions in new aircraft and 20 year loans/leases?? Doubtful for owners in there 60’s..??...