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idlethrust 01-29-2021 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by IDriveJets (Post 3187993)
Nothing in my bank account; I’m guessing it will be a lump sum payment but I could be wrong.

I wonder if people are going to bail after taking the money or just bail from AW altogether with the way things are going.

Take the cash obviously, but if you get another job offer take it .
This is about to get real ugly .

nonononononono 01-29-2021 07:17 AM

You cant even spell the word ugly. The fun hasnt even started yet.

IDriveJets 01-29-2021 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by idlethrust (Post 3187996)
Take the cash obviously, but if you get another job offer take it .
This is about to get real ugly .

It got ugly from April last year and kept going downhill and still continues to do so.

From a personal standpoint I think the company acted too late on getting 700s or 900s and was too comfortable with 50 seat flying.

Other regionals have gotten more block hours and are about to restart hiring/training and have recalled their staff with no intent to furlough yet here we are furloughed, recalled and re-furloughed come March end because there is no demand.

Being a contract carrier I wonder what would happen if UA cut us loose and said they didn’t need us anymore.

DarkSideMoon 01-29-2021 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by IDriveJets (Post 3188004)
It got ugly from April last year and kept going downhill and still continues to do so.

From a personal standpoint I think the company acted too late on getting 700s or 900s and was too comfortable with 50 seat flying.

Other regionals have gotten more block hours and are about to restart hiring/training and have recalled their staff with no intent to furlough yet here we are furloughed, recalled and re-furloughed come March end because there is no demand.

Being a contract carrier I wonder what would happen if UA cut us loose and said they didn’t need us anymore.

They would have to pay out massive penalties, which is probably why they did it to XJT and not us.

IDriveJets 01-29-2021 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon (Post 3188009)
They would have to pay out massive penalties, which is probably why they did it to XJT and not us.


It could still happen if they decided to do so...

DarkSideMoon 01-29-2021 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by IDriveJets (Post 3188021)
It could still happen if they decided to do so...

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You can spend all day hand wringing about what if’s in this industry. They shaved 100 aircraft off their 50 seat fleet already. East nowhere will still need their one flight a day once the covid slump is over. If they were going to just cut us and pay the penalty, it probably would’ve happened already.

Escargot 01-29-2021 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by IDriveJets (Post 3188004)
It got ugly from April last year and kept going downhill and still continues to do so.

From a personal standpoint I think the company acted too late on getting 700s or 900s and was too comfortable with 50 seat flying.

Other regionals have gotten more block hours and are about to restart hiring/training and have recalled their staff with no intent to furlough yet here we are furloughed, recalled and re-furloughed come March end because there is no demand.

Being a contract carrier I wonder what would happen if UA cut us loose and said they didn’t need us anymore.

I'd say that's going out on a limb to say as much. Other companies actually said they weren't going to furlough Oct 1, then they did anyway. Just giving the devil his due, but at least Whisky played it relatively straight.
In other news, personalized WARN notices issued.
"Dear Employee..."

WhiskyWhisky 01-29-2021 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by IDriveJets (Post 3188004)
It got ugly from April last year and kept going downhill and still continues to do so.

From a personal standpoint I think the company acted too late on getting 700s or 900s and was too comfortable with 50 seat flying.

Other regionals have gotten more block hours and are about to restart hiring/training and have recalled their staff with no intent to furlough yet here we are furloughed, recalled and re-furloughed come March end because there is no demand.

Being a contract carrier I wonder what would happen if UA cut us loose and said they didn’t need us anymore.

I'd be far more worried about the impact of the massive cuts to domestic oil production that are REAL EVENTS compared to your dramatic soap-opera What Ifs that have little chance of materializing. Covid was a shot in the Left foot. Canceling domestic oil in the name of Climate Change was a shot in the Right foot. We are going from a limp to down on both knees. The industry is going to be decimated. I'd be looking for work outside of this industry rather than sitting in your parent's basement posting What Ifs about the regional airline industry on airline pilot central.

GA2Jets 01-29-2021 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by WhiskyWhisky (Post 3188269)
I'd be far more worried about the impact of the massive cuts to domestic oil production that are REAL EVENTS compared to your dramatic soap-opera What Ifs that have little chance of materializing. Covid was a shot in the Left foot. Canceling domestic oil in the name of Climate Change was a shot in the Right foot. We are going from a limp to down on both knees. The industry is going to be decimated. I'd be looking for work outside of this industry rather than sitting in your parent's basement posting What Ifs about the regional airline industry on airline pilot central.

There is more to life than just the airlines, as you say. Maybe some people value things like the environment in addition to their own finances...

WhiskyWhisky 01-29-2021 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by GA2Jets (Post 3188273)
There is more to life than just the airlines, as you say. Maybe some people value things like the environment in addition to their own finances...

Folks, remember this statement next time you share the cockpit with a Leftie. The enemy is within


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