PSA help

Is that really a loss of 50 pilots in the last 2 months? How many pilots do you currently have?

whoooooooocares

I think roughly 580. I may be wrong but trying to do the math from the last accurate seniority list published to now with all the resignations.

prex8390

This place every day looks more and more like Great Lakes. Having a good number of people and probably this time next year, down to a few hundred people flying the scraps they can manage to staff. The way the numbers are swan diving. This place is gonna be consolidated into a single crew base I bet soon. Roughy the same time they start down grading.

akulahunter

Numbers are definitely gonna climb... I dropped my letter a couple of days ago. I expect the first week of November will already have 8-10 resignations.

There are definitely interesting times ahead for AWAC.

Junkyard Dog

Of our new hires, many still don't make it through the training or get off of OE. We are coming up with negative numbers of pilots.

No upgrades in sight. There were four awarded in August and none of them have heard anything on training. They've been told they can't due to the severe FO shortage. Crew Availablity shows 7 CA and 15 FO resignations this month so far. And tommorow it'll be 16 FOs.

They want to hire Instructor/Management pilots and salary them and send them out on the line to fly. Thus trying not to upgrade anyone.

Now they're bringing in retired pilots to fly planes under part 91 like going to heavy checks and the paint shop. This circumventing any more FOs to upgrade. Are we short? Yes we are. My FO last week called in sick and I did a 4 day with 7 different FOs including two being junior manned.
We even cancelled flights due to lack of FOs. The FO I am flying with today is on his last trip and tomorrow is his last day as he heads over to PSA. He said if he stayed, he'd never upgrade.
I can't say that I blame him.
I wouldn't be surprised if they once again call in RSV CAs to fly and put LCAs in the right seat. Or even worse, force to downgrade just to have enough FOs.
I'm hoping that won't happen. But it's just hope.

Fleron270

I just flew a trip where an LCA was rerouted into flying as an FO. The two reserve captains I flew with said that their past few trips were to cover such situations.

LCAs are getting upset about it. The company is paying 7+ year captain pay on reroutes with additional flying, double deadheads, etc. instead of having a first year reserve FO do the flying.

highflyer0685

As a reserve CA I was put on a few legs of a LCAs scheduled 4 day trip, they just slide him over to the right seat. Essentially I was being used to cover FO flying.

Name User

The crazy thing October is one of the slowest flying months block hour wise of the entire year.

AA is kinda shooting themselves in the foot here. On one hand I realize they want to beef up and staff their WO's but on the other hand they can't afford to let AWAC continue to cancel their flying due to lack of staffing that they essentially are contributing to (by hiring all the AWAC F/Os to PSA and Piedmont).

Upper management at both companies isn't stupid, they know exactly what is going on.

lalo

The bulk of the FOs I know are going to LCCs, not PDT or PSA. It may be just the guys/gals I know, all around the 3 year mark. Does anyone have numbers (besides AJ in ORF) as to where folks are going?

StrykerB21

Ive applied to Spirit and Frontier and never heard back. Anyone know the backgrounds of these FOs going to LCCs?