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trevtt600 11-26-2006 02:22 PM

Don't know of any others for the class. Im from appleton, but im in Daytona Beach now. Can't wait to get back north. Im going to call and talk to Sarah on Monday. When i was there for my interview, there were about 6 or 7 people for that class going on. Lets hope this midwest flying goes through.

orangeskysurfer 11-26-2006 02:44 PM

Thanks, Im not too familiar with the contract greivance.. Can ya fill me in or direct me somewhere online to find out about it?

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Get the bilge pumps on! If she gets any fatter, were never gettin off!

saab2000 11-26-2006 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by orangeskysurfer (Post 85020)
Thanks, Im not too familiar with the contract greivance.. Can ya fill me in or direct me somewhere online to find out about it?

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Get the bilge pumps on! If she gets any fatter, were never gettin off!

The company came to the pilot group a little over 3 years ago looking for concessions which they said would lock in a 10-year contract flying with United as United Express. Later we lost the flying we all thought we had given concessions to guarantee. (I am hesitant to say "We" because the concessions were given just before I showed up.)

The AWAC ALPA grieved this and it is now in the hands of the arbitrator. It is binding and tough to say how it will go. The pilots feel as if they were lied to by management in order to coerce concessions.

That is the long and short of it. Maybe another AWAC dude can add something.

PeanutButter 11-26-2006 06:31 PM

I will be probably in the Jan class as well. looking fwd to see you there lads!

orangeskysurfer 11-27-2006 10:04 AM

Trev- you get any response yet?-

Trev and peanutbutter-ill keep ya guys posted on any news that i get coming my way.. just to keep the lines open, my emai is [email protected]

PeanutButter 12-07-2006 12:26 AM

any news for the Jan class?

Korean1DR 12-07-2006 04:07 AM

A captain that I'm crashpaddin with says that he heard there won't be an AWAC class until Feb... but I don't know if he knows that as fact or not...

BoilerUP 12-07-2006 04:27 AM

Was told in recurrent recently to expect second half of January for a newhire class because we are fat FOs..."but that is always subject to change".

Its quiet, vewwy vewwy quiet up in Toon Town these days...

hatetobreakit2u 12-07-2006 06:17 AM

if you lose the grievance why do you think people will skip town to start on the bottom of another list if you still have one of "the better" contracts

BoilerUP 12-07-2006 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by hatetobreakit2u (Post 89393)
if you lose the grievance why do you think people will skip town to start on the bottom of another list if you still have one of "the better" contracts

No Midwest equals no growth for the forseeable future. No 'big grievance' victory means continued crap schedules and status quo pay. That will likely be the last straw for people on the fence after having family lives strained by commuting and not having any time at home.

Captains of all flavors will leave for greener pastures (frax, corporate, CAL/JBU/SWA/UPS/FDX/FNT/etc). A couple very junior FOs may make lateral moves to other regionals (stupid IMO) and a few senior FOs may leave for frax operators or corporate gigs, or maybe places like FNT or CAL that don't require PIC time. A few in either seat might quit aviation altogether.

Depending on what happens the next couple months, rapid attrition will be the loudest, most noticed vote of no confidence in the future of this company. That said, I remain optimistic...


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