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ShyGuy 05-07-2017 05:25 PM
Check a pilot shirt, looks like a white collar to me :D

juventus 05-07-2017 06:49 PM
Originally Posted by WutFace (Post 2359019)
You are a faceless cog in the machine. Interchangeable. Replaceable. Doctors and lawyers can be identified by their own individual talents. In our industry there's no way to make such distinctions.

Wake up from your delusions. You're blue collar labor.
A legacy wide body captain makes well north of 300k a year , and you think I'm delusional, if We are just skilled blue collars , then We are grossly overpaid, considering what average white collars jobs are paying .

tomgoodman 05-07-2017 07:39 PM
Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 2359274)
Check a pilot shirt, looks like a white collar to me :D
Not after a few DC-9 legs in the summertime. :p

Klsytakesit 05-08-2017 06:49 AM
Juv....you dont work at a legacy and you dont fly a widebody....You work for a small, west coast regional

ShyGuy 05-08-2017 08:06 AM
Originally Posted by tomgoodman (Post 2359330)
Not after a few DC-9 legs in the summertime. :p
Haha!

Originally Posted by juventus (Post 2359304)
A legacy wide body captain makes well north of 300k a year , and you think I'm delusional, if We are just skilled blue collars , then We are grossly overpaid, considering what average white collars jobs are paying .
I hear JetBlue pilots are blue collar :D

Tubby 05-08-2017 08:33 AM
Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2355874)
Be careful what you wish for. The Company wanted an 11% across the board pay cut, but the MEC held out for arbitration. That arbitration that cost the Captains a 22% pay cut and the F/Os a 30+% pay cut.
I remember the company asked for a 26% cut not 11%. I also remember ALPA publicly stating we were going to take a hit.
In addition it wasn't just pay the company wanted. They wanted the A plan badly. Thankfully Kasher never let them near it.

Klsytakesit 05-08-2017 04:08 PM
Like you said......and Kasher knew we would cave and hand them the A plan in 09 so he stayed away....For all the geniuses fronting as pilots...How would you have removed the "arbitration side letter gun" from our heads....It had to go...It was put there, loaded and cocked by the previous generation.....At least we only had head wound when it was over....If you werent there, If you were enjoying an alternate source of income, If you did not live through it then keep your mouth shut and learn from it....The same people are still running Alaska Airlines.....

Xtreme87 05-08-2017 04:59 PM
Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 2359565)
Haha!



I hear JetBlue pilots are blue collar :D
That's so we know our place in the world from day 1. The help.

Packrat 05-09-2017 07:49 AM
Originally Posted by Tubby (Post 2359584)
I remember the company asked for a 26% cut not 11%. I also remember ALPA publicly stating we were going to take a hit.
In addition it wasn't just pay the company wanted. They wanted the A plan badly. Thankfully Kasher never let them near it.
Yeah, in arbitration. I'm talking about the original offer that was endorsed by ALPA National. The MEC, however, thought they could win arbitration, so they rejected it.

Packrat 05-09-2017 07:52 AM
Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 2359274)
Check a pilot shirt, looks like a white collar to me :D
Original AS unis in the '90s were light blue shirts. Best thing they ever did was switch to white so we wouldn't be reminded we were just blue collar labor.

Heck, some airlines wear grey!


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