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Happydayz 08-12-2017 07:12 AM

Application window?
 
Please be gentle, 🤓
I've been to Alaska's website and I must be missing something because I can't seem to find a place to apply. Window closed? They just went to OBAP, so I'm assuming the window is open. Do I need a secret handshake to find out where to apply? Also, I went Virgins website and they have a link to apply.
If I apply at VA is same as applying at Alaska?

Thx

waterboy 08-12-2017 07:46 AM

Yes applying at virgin america will be the same as Alaska in the end. Currently they are still run as two seperate airlines. If you apply and get hired on at Virgin America, you will be a VX pilot flying an Airbus and be based in LAX, SFO, or NYC. Next year is when the seniority list integration will take place, where pilots from both companies will become one. No one knows what types of fences or restrictions there will be once it's out. But at some point you will be able to bid over to one of AS current bases if you choose to do so. I believe anyone hired after the Merger announcement date will fall in the new ISL based on date of hire. So if you really want Alaska, I would apply to both VX and AS and try to get on with whoever calls you

Happydayz 08-12-2017 08:34 AM

Thx for that info. Lax is my preferred base.

Riverside 08-12-2017 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Happydayz (Post 2409219)
Please be gentle, 🤓
I've been to Alaska's website and I must be missing something because I can't seem to find a place to apply. Window closed? They just went to OBAP, so I'm assuming the window is open. Do I need a secret handshake to find out where to apply? Also, I went Virgins website and they have a link to apply.
If I apply at VA is same as applying at Alaska?

Thx

Alaska window was open a few months back. Most airlines open their windows before a job fair.

Wynncore 08-12-2017 02:43 PM

I would expect the Alaska window to open again this fall. The pool of pilots that will be placed in classes in the next few months will soon run dry meaning interviews will resume. Keep an eye on it and best of luck

ImperialxRat 08-12-2017 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by Happydayz (Post 2409219)
Please be gentle, 🤓
I've been to Alaska's website and I must be missing something because I can't seem to find a place to apply. Window closed? They just went to OBAP, so I'm assuming the window is open. Do I need a secret handshake to find out where to apply? Also, I went Virgins website and they have a link to apply.
If I apply at VA is same as applying at Alaska?

Thx

Alaska only opens their application window twice a year and it's the only time you can "update" your information. I put update in quotes because by update your information I mean re-apply. :( It's a pain.

Ultimately Virgin and Alaska will be one company with one seniority list, so apply to both (right now just Virgin) and hope for the best. Keep an eye on this Alaska forum to find out when the Alaska window is open next time (easier than checking the Alaska website since we get an email before it's open to notify friends who want to apply).

LAX bases are junior at both companies so wouldn't be a problem getting it right away or shortly after being hired.

Reactivity 08-12-2017 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by ImperialxRat (Post 2409492)
Alaska only opens their application window twice a year and it's the only time you can "update" your information. I put update in quotes because by update your information I mean re-apply. :( It's a pain.

The last time they opened the window, they told those of us who already had applications on file that there was no need to reapply - they were retaining our applications for further consideration. But that also meant we could not update, because there is no mechanism for that in Alaska's application process. There were some who went ahead and reapplied so that they could update, and a few of those ended up getting TBNT letters. Oops.

ImperialxRat 08-13-2017 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by Reactivity (Post 2409626)
The last time they opened the window, they told those of us who already had applications on file that there was no need to reapply - they were retaining our applications for further consideration. But that also meant we could not update, because there is no mechanism for that in Alaska's application process. There were some who went ahead and reapplied so that they could update, and a few of those ended up getting TBNT letters. Oops.

I would just reapply next time it opens. Their application system sucks.

pete2800 08-15-2017 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Reactivity (Post 2409626)
The last time they opened the window, they told those of us who already had applications on file that there was no need to reapply - they were retaining our applications for further consideration. But that also meant we could not update, because there is no mechanism for that in Alaska's application process. There were some who went ahead and reapplied so that they could update, and a few of those ended up getting TBNT letters. Oops.


Originally Posted by ImperialxRat (Post 2410228)
I would just reapply next time it opens. Their application system sucks.

Yeah... I got a "thanks for applying" email, then a "TBNT" email, then a "please disregard the TBNT" email, then I got an interview and got hired.

I don't think there's a wrong way to go about applying. I would apply at every opportunity.

TripleCrank 08-15-2017 02:30 PM

[QUOTE=pete2800;2411052]Yeah... I got a "thanks for applying" email, then a "TBNT" email, then a "please disregard the TBNT" email, then I got an interview and got hired.

I don't think there's a wrong way to go about applying. I would apply at every opportunity.[/

I had a similar experience and agree with the advice to apply to each open window.

flysooner9 11-08-2017 06:09 AM

anyone know when the next hiring window opens?

Riverside 11-08-2017 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 2462435)
anyone know when the next hiring window opens?

Do you have FB account? I suggest checking out their pilot recruiting page. If not, window is expected to open in January.

miker1 11-08-2017 02:30 PM

They send out emails via the talent community thing when the window opens.

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Work2much 11-09-2017 07:27 AM

Window opens Nov 13th-23rd

OCCP 11-09-2017 08:37 AM

Hopefully this is just a stepping stone for you

Riverside 11-09-2017 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by Work2much (Post 2463125)
Window opens Nov 13th-23rd

Really? Weird, I heard January. Oh well....

BiloxiJack 11-09-2017 10:45 AM

Minimums were dropp d to 2000TT and no college degree as well.

Originally Posted by Riverside (Post 2463228)
Really? Weird, I heard January. Oh well....


PNWFlyer 11-09-2017 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by BiloxiJack (Post 2463233)
Minimums were dropp d to 2000TT and no college degree as well.

If the no college degree thing is true it is to keep people from leaving since they can't get hired at the big 3 without one. Hell, at United not only do you need a degree but a 3.0 GPA as well.

ASpilot2be 11-09-2017 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by PNWFlyer (Post 2463301)
If the no college degree thing is true it is to keep people from leaving since they can't get hired at the big 3 without one. Hell, at United not only do you need a degree but a 3.0 GPA as well.

A degree is only preferred at United. But to be competitive you would need one.

PNWFlyer 11-09-2017 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by ASpilot2be (Post 2463309)
A degree is only preferred at United. But to be competitive you would need one.

At every job fair what's his nuts gets up there and says don't expect a call unless you have higher than a 3.0 Undergrad GPA. So I guess that still counts as prefered.

Only people that I know that gotr calls with less had higher Graduate GPA that averaged out.

TurnNBurn 11-09-2017 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by BiloxiJack (Post 2463233)
Minimums were dropp d to 2000TT and no college degree as well.

Where are these mins posted?

ShyGuy 11-09-2017 01:52 PM

Internal Chief Pilot email update. Yes mins are now 2,000 total fixed wing and high school diploma. Preference given to 1,000TPIC and college degree. For military it's 2,000 total or 1,200 in high performance military aircraft. For rotor wing guys, 50% of rotor time can count towards 1,000 hrs for the mins.

Window opens Nov 13-23rd, all hiring done by Alaska now. First joint Indoc in Seattle starts Jan 22, 2018.

TurnNBurn 11-09-2017 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 2463368)
Internal Chief Pilot email update. Yes mins are now 2,000 total fixed wing and high school diploma. Preference given to 1,000TPIC and college degree. For military it's 2,000 total or 1,200 in high performance military aircraft. For rotor wing guys, 50% of rotor time can count towards 1,000 hrs for the mins.

Window opens Nov 13-23rd, all hiring done by Alaska now. First joint Indoc in Seattle starts Jan 22, 2018.

ATP or ATP written?
Thanks

ASpilot2be 11-09-2017 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by PNWFlyer (Post 2463335)
At every job fair what's his nuts gets up there and says don't expect a call unless you have higher than a 3.0 Undergrad GPA. So I guess that still counts as prefered.

Only people that I know that gotr calls with less had higher Graduate GPA that averaged out.

I figured that would be the case.

rickair7777 11-10-2017 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 2463368)
Internal Chief Pilot email update. Yes mins are now 2,000 total fixed wing and high school diploma.

Practically speaking, nobody's getting hired with 2000 *and* no degree. You might get hired with 2000 if it's mil or you have something that really makes you stand out.

In order to get hired without a degree you'll need significant aviation credentials, which in the civilian world means flight time.

PotatoChip 11-10-2017 04:51 PM

Anyone if they will be hiring into JFK?

Riverside 11-10-2017 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by PotatoChip (Post 2464072)
Anyone if they will be hiring into JFK?

More like LAX.

Mossback80 11-11-2017 02:03 PM

I am as excited as anyone about lower minimums, but is there any indication that what is competitive is going to be any less? I have less than a 3.0 GPA but 4,000 plus hours and a significant amount of TPIC. Just curious if there is any word on the street. Thanks.

PNWFlyer 11-11-2017 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by Mossback80 (Post 2464510)
I am as excited as anyone about lower minimums, but is there any indication that what is competitive is going to be any less? I have less than a 3.0 GPA but 4,000 plus hours and a significant amount of TPIC. Just curious if there is any word on the street. Thanks.

Alaska does not care about GPA. Only United and Delta.

Mossback80 11-11-2017 04:06 PM

Ok, maybe that was old info. Thanks for that.

Dhood84 11-11-2017 05:32 PM

Glad I can apply this round. Hopefully I’ll get a call.

DH

StickPig 11-12-2017 05:06 PM

College degree, 2k TT, 1,100 Mil PIC hours in a C12, couple hundred as current 121 regional FO. Worth a submission?

GreatBigSea 11-12-2017 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by StickPig (Post 2465003)
College degree, 2k TT, 1,100 Mil PIC hours in a C12, couple hundred as current 121 regional FO. Worth a submission?

Hit 2500 TT and youll meet the mins for Delta. But yeah, i think it’s worth a submission to Alaska until Delta comes calling.

StickPig 11-12-2017 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by GreatBigSea (Post 2465005)
Hit 2500 TT and youll meet the mins for Delta. But yeah, i think it’s worth a submission to Alaska until Delta comes calling.

On a trip now, but I’ll crack the app when I get home Tuesday. Thanks for the input!

PotatoChip 11-12-2017 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by GreatBigSea (Post 2465005)
Hit 2500 TT and youll meet the mins for Delta. But yeah, i think it’s worth a submission to Alaska until Delta comes calling.

A friend of mine got hired at 1300tt at Delta. I'd apply there now if you are mil with a solid resume.

riktaroller 11-12-2017 05:34 PM

Make sure you apply for the place with growth, a future, sub par wages and sub par working rules, you don’t want to be working at Alaska when they do this to the industry because your union reps allowed this.
Fast track a merger, by allowing no negotiations to go to arbitration, your not union reps, your bought. Disgrace to the industry. Can’t figure out why there’s a pilot shortage.

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/a...iring-258.html

flysooner9 11-13-2017 07:42 AM

anyone know when the job will be posted today?

Oma4545 11-13-2017 08:04 AM

Try and get on with Alaska? Or upgrade now at my regional carrier? Just looking for some career input, my goal is to work for Delta but I imagine things are better at Alaska than at my current regional.

GreatBigSea 11-13-2017 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by Oma4545 (Post 2465277)
Try and get on with Alaska? Or upgrade now at my regional carrier? Just looking for some career input, my goal is to work for Delta but I imagine things are better at Alaska than at my current regional.

Both. Take the first available upgrade and fly your tail off. If AS calls make the decision then, but hopefully Delta calls first.

armypilot 11-13-2017 08:42 AM

Anyone know if the application window has been opened? I've been searching since last night and can't find anything. If anyone has the link, would you mind posting it here?

Thanks!
AP


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