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2loud 02-15-2018 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by Nucflash (Post 2529724)
I have absolutely ZERO doubt that a 135 guy or a KC-10 guy or a C-17 guy or a 130 guy or a COD guy or a B-52 guy or even a C-12 guy would be, at least initially, ten times better suited to this job than a single seat “high performance" guy. Absolutely NONE. No one cares about “high performance” time. The only reason it matters is because of the multiplier. And to their egos, apparently.....

Unless you have “been there done that”, I’d keep your opinion to yourself. Not everyone makes the cut for fighters/single seat and the rest go on to multicrew airframes by choice or not. Everything depends on the individual and airline flying/training is set with the lowest common denominator in mind.

Klsytakesit 02-15-2018 11:00 PM


Originally Posted by Nucflash (Post 2529724)
I have absolutely ZERO doubt that a 135 guy or a KC-10 guy or a C-17 guy or a 130 guy or a COD guy or a B-52 guy or even a C-12 guy would be, at least initially, ten times better suited to this job than a single seat “high performance" guy. Absolutely NONE. No one cares about “high performance” time. The only reason it matters is because of the multiplier. And to their egos, apparently.....

I will take you up on that....Least favorite pilots to fly with are C-17 pilots...Fighter guys are way better to spend a 4 day trip with. And the fighter guys catch on to the two or three things required to fly in a crew...

Hacker15e 02-16-2018 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by Nucflash (Post 2529724)
I have absolutely ZERO doubt that a 135 guy or a KC-10 guy or a C-17 guy or a 130 guy or a COD guy or a B-52 guy or even a C-12 guy would be, at least initially, ten times better suited to this job than a single seat “high performance" guy. Absolutely NONE. No one cares about “high performance” time. The only reason it matters is because of the multiplier. And to their egos, apparently.....

Interesting opinion.

The people who hire pilots at airlines do not agree with you.

2loud 02-16-2018 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by Klsytakesit (Post 2529746)
I will take you up on that....Least favorite pilots to fly with are C-17 pilots...Fighter guys are way better to spend a 4 day trip with. And the fighter guys catch on to the two or three things required to fly in a crew...

That's a new one. Fighter guys are egotistical buttholes and heavy guys are laid back cool types-isn't that the perception? You just don't like the McChordites.:D The gravedigger gave them boyz a bad rap. Barney drivers are all right by me.

Packrat 02-16-2018 07:58 AM

Nucflash doesn't seem to realize that TACAIR guys have to adhere to all the safety regs as everyone else while undergoing physiological and psychological stresses (i.e. combat, carrier ops) that the others don't.

They may not have as much total flight time, but one could argue that their time is more decision making packed than droning in cruise across 10 time zones.

Besides, TACAIR guys are generally more fun to hang out with.

ArcticDog 02-16-2018 08:06 AM

Fighter pilots are better than heavy pilots, military pilots are better than civilian pilots, Airbus is better than Boeing, my #### is bigger than your ####. Blah blah blah. Who cares? A former CP once told me, anyone can take a nice guy/gal who is a mediocre pilot and make them a better pilot. It's impossible to take an ace pilot who is an ###hole and make him a better person! I've flown with great guys and gals who are former C-17, F-15, C-172 and I've flown with ones who are #####'s. It's about the person, not the propulsion. Rant over!

ForeverJunior 02-16-2018 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by ArcticDog (Post 2530017)
Fighter pilots are better than heavy pilots, military pilots are better than civilian pilots, Airbus is better than Boeing, my #### is bigger than your ####. Blah blah blah. Who cares? A former CP once told me, anyone can take a nice guy/gal who is a mediocre pilot and make them a better pilot. It's impossible to take an ace pilot who is an ###hole and make him a better person! I've flown with great guys and gals who are former C-17, F-15, C-172 and I've flown with ones who are #####'s. It's about the person, not the propulsion. Rant over!

Hear! Hear!

NotTellin 02-16-2018 11:20 PM


Originally Posted by ArcticDog (Post 2530017)
Fighter pilots are better than heavy pilots, military pilots are better than civilian pilots, Airbus is better than Boeing, my #### is bigger than your ####. Blah blah blah. Who cares? A former CP once told me, anyone can take a nice guy/gal who is a mediocre pilot and make them a better pilot. It's impossible to take an ace pilot who is an ###hole and make him a better person! I've flown with great guys and gals who are former C-17, F-15, C-172 and I've flown with ones who are #####'s. It's about the person, not the propulsion. Rant over!

Dilly Dilly!


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