Originally Posted by waterboy (Post 2565149)

Its my understanding that the Flight Attendants contract is very good at AS, relative to the industry. Another thread on here states they even get Holiday pay. Why that is, I couldn't answer intelligently because I dont fly a Boeing. .

Originally Posted by KnockKnock (Post 2565441)

I think the first big step toward our negotiators being able to pull weight at the bargaining table is ALPA's cold hard enforcement of our current contract. If management is allowed to continue to run roughshod all over our work rules, they will never be compelled to negotiate in good faith. No more "fly now, grieve later". The grievances have been allowed to pile up into the hundreds and no one is being held accountable. If ALPA tells us to "fly the contract and only the contract", they need to stand up to management and enforce the damn thing. The operation keeps ticking along because management has no fear that they will face any backlash from ALPA or the pilot group. Close the loopholes and color the gray areas in black and white. The negotiators will have a lot more leverage if the union is able to turn off all the pro bono work, from the pilots, management has become used to. Put some enforcement behind the phrase, "fly the contract", because right now it means absolutely nothing to management.

Originally Posted by Just a Lurker (Post 2565455)

And I have no faith in some of the VX reps who have quickly assimilated the bad AS ways. IMO, wholesale change is needed.

Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2565550)

Why? Its because a union group made up mainly of women has more balls than any other labor group on the property. They're ones who invented CHAOS, a labor tactic that has spread to every other unionized F/A group in the industry. A tactic that has been declared valid by the highest courts in the land.

Even Ray Vecci knew better than to mess with AS F/As.

Originally Posted by ImperialxRat (Post 2568116)

I had not heard of CHAOS (Creating Havoc Around Our System) before, but just did some reading on it. If it’s an approved RLA strike tactic then why haven’t we pilots implemented and use this during out negotiations?

Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2568129)

I think you have to be released to strike first, if you're complying with RLA. It's just a different flavor of strike... unpredictable so it catches the pax and company by surprise.

Originally Posted by SmoothLanderJ (Post 2565724)

100% Agreed. I’ve flown with multiple captains who bragged to me about making over 300k last year picking up premium trips, while we were in negotiations. :rolleyes::rolleyes: