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AJ Crowley 04-23-2018 09:47 AM

Base can't close in august. Read the TPA and contract people. There is a no base closer clause in the TPA which expires July 31st. Then there is a 90 day notice for base closer per the CBA. Which basically puts the base closer at 1 November. How that works into the SLI I don't know.

busbusbaby 04-23-2018 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by AJ Crowley (Post 2578370)
Base can't close in august. Read the TPA and contract people. There is a no base closer clause in the TPA which expires July 31st. Then there is a 90 day notice for base closer per the CBA. Which basically puts the base closer at 1 November. How that works into the SLI I don't know.

I would read it as the base stays until July 31st, I don’t t see anything in the tpa that says they can not announce it prior to 31st of July so any time at or after May 3rd is fare game.
“C. Base Closing. No Base will be closed, if at all, prior to the earlier of the Operational
Merger Date or July 31, 2018.” From the TPA

MusicPilot 04-23-2018 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by busbusbaby (Post 2578444)
I would read it as the base stays until July 31st, I don’t t see anything in the tpa that says they can not announce it prior to 31st of July so any time at or after May 3rd is fare game.
“C. Base Closing. No Base will be closed, if at all, prior to the earlier of the Operational
Merger Date or July 31, 2018.” From the TPA

I totally agree. It’s all about wording. If it said that “no base will be closed and a notification of any base closure can only take place after July 31,3018, and will require 90 days after notification.” Then I can see it not being closed until end of October. The transition flying is happening in August, so I’m pretty sure the base reduction would start by then too.

AJ Crowley 04-23-2018 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by busbusbaby (Post 2578444)
I would read it as the base stays until July 31st, I don’t t see anything in the tpa that says they can not announce it prior to 31st of July so any time at or after May 3rd is fare game.
“C. Base Closing. No Base will be closed, if at all, prior to the earlier of the Operational
Merger Date or July 31, 2018.” From the TPA


You might be right, but there is still 90 day notice required by the cba.

airb320 04-23-2018 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by AJ Crowley (Post 2578637)
You might be right, but there is still 90 day notice required by the cba.

Where does it state that in our contract? Sideletter?
I can’t find it in our contract...Thx!

busbusbaby 04-23-2018 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by airb320 (Post 2578641)
Where does it state that in our contract? Sideletter?
I can’t find it in our contract...Thx!

The 90 days is in the contract, the July date is in the tpa.

busbusbaby 04-23-2018 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by AJ Crowley (Post 2578637)
You might be right, but there is still 90 day notice required by the cba.

Yes and 90 days from August 1 is about May 3rd. They can say on May third the base is closing efective August 1. I can not find anything that precludes them from doing this, it’s 90 days and after July 31.

airb320 04-23-2018 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by busbusbaby (Post 2578645)
The 90 days is in the contract, the July date is in the tpa.

Where?
I have been looking and searching electronically?!

ShyGuy 04-23-2018 05:36 PM

MEA, while sharing information is good, just make sure you don't violate any NDAs when doing so.

IDIOTPILOT 04-23-2018 05:46 PM

JL just said a decision will be coming in the next month or two.


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