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av8or 09-27-2018 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 2682169)
It's a problem (and illegal) when it's a concerted action by the pilot group. Spirit forums were full of people calling out others for picking up trips. And other dummies openly writing to stop picking up open time trips. One guy even made a website that listed names of Spirit pilots that were picking up open time trips. That site was closed before mgt could identify who did it, but if they did, that guy would be fired.

Management keeps track of all sick time usage and open time pickups and have all sorts of graphs to study patterns. All they have to do is show a judge the pattern 'before' and 'after' and show some proof (eg, pilots writing on APC to stop picking up open time trips). They just have to show deviance from historical norms along with whatever evidence they have the pilots are acting up via some sort of campaign.

The Spirit TRO was full of APC posts by many NK pilots in their NK threads. It's fully enforceable and the union itself can be held accountable (fined big time) if they don't try and squash an illegal work action. This is one area where you will lose. Historical precedent is with management, not pilots. Do not participate or partake in any illegal job action or something that could be construed as such. And certainly do not post about doing anything illegal. Your union speaks for you, let them do their job.

Spot on. In a United case, the Union was held responsible simply for “not doing enough” in the eyes of the judge to squash what was considered individual pilots decisions not authorized, sanctioned or encouraged by the union. There are other creative ways to legally compel fair bargaining. Making sudden changes in one’s individual MO is not one that’s gonna work, and can SEVERELY damage momentum and effectiveness.


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