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KnockKnock 07-18-2019 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by Bobman80 (Post 2854985)
But if they go to another airline I might have guessed it when I played that game... good for my book.

This is fun.

Jesus loves you bob.

Bobman80 07-18-2019 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by SeaRider (Post 2852630)
Cool story bruh


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In all honesty I’m just messing with you guys.

But, I don’t understand why you give guys a such a hard time for leaving. I’ve got a buddy who left and the reaction he got from a lot of fellow pilots was kinda unbelievable and instead of congratulating him, he got ridiculed... Anyways...

Bobman80 07-18-2019 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by KnockKnock (Post 2855121)
Jesus loves you bob.

I’m sure he/she does 😀

KnockKnock 07-18-2019 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by Bobman80 (Post 2855122)
In all honesty I’m just messing with you guys.

But, I don’t understand why you give guys a such a hard time for leaving. I’ve got a buddy who left and the reaction he got from a lot of fellow pilots was kinda unbelievable and instead of congratulating him, he got ridiculed... Anyways...

I don’t think anyone cares at all if guys leave. I say thanks for the bump and good luck. The more that leave the better. It sounds like your “buddy” got a bad batch.

SeaRider 07-18-2019 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by Bobman80 (Post 2855122)
In all honesty I’m just messing with you guys.



But, I don’t understand why you give guys a such a hard time for leaving. I’ve got a buddy who left and the reaction he got from a lot of fellow pilots was kinda unbelievable and instead of congratulating him, he got ridiculed... Anyways...



Got a couple of aliases there? I was only giving you a hard time for coming onto the b!tch boards and bi!ching. I don’t even work for Alaska. I follow the thread because Alaska was my dream airline since I was six years old. Now, I probably feel the same about Alaska as you do. Best of luck with the new gig. Delta by chance?


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Packrat 07-18-2019 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by Bobman80 (Post 2854987)
Has Alaska ever been a destination airline?

Actually, back in my day it was. The Majors had weird restrictions. Delta required 20/20 vision. United was compensating for an EEOC problem. American had a "Nazi superman" medical.

Then the Majors unilaterally cancelled their A plans. Alaska Captain pay was comparable. 92% across the fleets. That made them slightly higher on the 737-200 but slightly lower on the MD and 727.

Alaska had never furloughed in recent history. It attracted a lot of Eastern, Braniff and PeoplExpress pilots when those airlines went Tango Uniform. Alaska had nowhere near the issues that were prevalent at USAir/Piedmont/America West.

Good medical insurance coverage.

At the time we had pretty good contract language...trips touching training/vacation dropped and credited, 400 hours of Union work paid by the Company that allowed refund of the SMRF and liberal policy about dropping and trading trips. Unfortunately, that's all gone.

Talking to the guys on the property now, especially those with 5 years or less seniority, I can see why they're unhappy. The whole "We Are Family" B.S. Angle Lake spouts is a bad joke.

Alaska has devolved into the West Coast regional (flying 737s and Buses) it has always really been. People are just starting to recognize it. That's the only difference.

KnockKnock 07-18-2019 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2855157)
Actually, back in my day it was. The Majors had weird restrictions. Delta required 20/20 vision. United was compensating for an EEOC problem. American had a "Nazi superman" medical.

Then the Majors unilaterally cancelled their A plans. Alaska Captain pay was comparable. 92% across the fleets. That made them slightly higher on the 737-200 but slightly lower on the MD and 727.

Alaska had never furloughed in recent history. It attracted a lot of Eastern, Braniff and PeoplExpress pilots when those airlines went Tango Uniform. Alaska had nowhere near the issues that were prevalent at USAir/Piedmont/America West.

Good medical insurance coverage.

At the time we had pretty good contract language...trips touching training/vacation dropped and credited, 400 hours of Union work paid by the Company that allowed refund of the SMRF and liberal policy about dropping and trading trips. Unfortunately, that's all gone.

Talking to the guys on the property now, especially those with 5 years or less seniority, I can see why they're unhappy. The whole "We Are Family" B.S. Angle Lake spouts is a bad joke.

Alaska has devolved into the West Coast regional (flying 737s and Buses) it has always really been. People are just starting to recognize it. That's the only difference.

Why do you guys get so hung up on the “type” of flying AS does? “Devolved into a West Coast regional”.... It’s the same type of flying that AS has always done with incremental expansion. It’s the same type of flying that SW, Frontier, JB, Spirit, old VX, 70% of UAL, DAL and AA does. You guys try and use “regional” as some type of slur. Why are you guys so enamored with your perceived hierarchy of airlines? Is it necessary to maintain a self image of superiority to get you through the day? That seems debilitating. Who cares where anyone works? The type of flying will never change here at AS unless we get bought. It’s never been in question. It’s the contract we operate that flying that needs to be remedied. You guys should go and enjoy the flying your doing. Even better, go enjoy something outside of flying. It’s a job fellas.

450knotOffice 07-18-2019 09:46 AM

^^This.

I'm always a bit puzzled by that not so subtle slur, based on Alaska's routes. Honestly, why should anybody care?

ShyGuy 07-18-2019 10:47 AM

Mokulele is better. Did I seriously just read that? The salt is still real :eek:

Bobman80 07-18-2019 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by SeaRider (Post 2855149)
Got a couple of aliases there? I was only giving you a hard time for coming onto the b!tch boards and bi!ching. I don’t even work for Alaska. I follow the thread because Alaska was my dream airline since I was six years old. Now, I probably feel the same about Alaska as you do. Best of luck with the new gig. Delta by chance?


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I see, no my buddy isn’t secretly me. I’ve never worked at Alaska.

Anyway, I’ll give up on the trash talk. Good luck to you guys with scope, the merger etc.

P.S. Don’t let some random Delta guy who wanted to harass some Alaska guys affect your dream job...


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