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Quote: So an admittedly very few of these tragic events.

Look, as a human and even as a father, I have deep empathy for everyone involved in these shootings. At the same time, I believe we have acknowledge much more than race is involved. Attitude and respect are simply lost on some people.
I don't buy it. Your immediate reaction wasn't of empathy. It was victim blaming.

"Some people" don't have respect. Please elaborate on that very mysterious category of people you've named. Who could you possibly mean??
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Quote: Like this white murder suspect who runs around and charges while cops try to arrest him? Guess he should have been shot but wasn’t. Imagine if he was black.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqnN...&feature=share

I’m not defending every police encounter. In fact, I’m not defending any of them because I, like every poster here, weren’t there.

The only thing I’ll say about this video is he’s not reaching for a weapon or bending over into a vehicle with his hands concealed.
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Quote: I don't buy it. Your immediate reaction wasn't of empathy. It was victim blaming.

"Some people" don't have respect. Please elaborate on that very mysterious category of people you've named. Who could you possibly mean??

I don’t have to prove empathy to you. It existed long before I called you out on your claim this is a daily occurrence.

Some “victims”, the ones who violently resist arrest, are not innocent as you state. To claim they are masks a greater problem within society.
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Quote: I don’t have to prove empathy to you. It existed long before I called you out on your claim this is a daily occurrence.

Some “victims”, the ones who violently resist arrest, are not innocent as you state. To claim they are masks a greater problem within society.
This is the last thing I'm gonna say because you're not worth the keystrokes. This is America, land of due process. Innocence before guilt. And to see monsters like yourself make excuses for violent and unchecked law enforcement makes me actually ill. I'm gonna make this simple for you:

RESISTING ARREST SHOULD NOT BE A DEATH SENTENCE.
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Quote: This is the last thing I'm gonna say because you're not worth the keystrokes. This is America, land of due process. Innocence before guilt. And to see monsters like yourself make excuses for violent and unchecked law enforcement makes me actually ill. I'm gonna make this simple for you:

RESISTING ARREST SHOULD NOT BE A DEATH SENTENCE.

You lack the ability to put yourself in a cops position when faced with a person who is violently resisting arrest. You have no empathy for the human on the other side of the equation. Resisting arrest includes elements of reaching for a cop’s weapon or ignoring commands to keep hands visible.

I agree, America is the land of due process. So, as a citizen, I have to ask why some people of all shapes, colors, creeds, etc choose to elevate an interaction with a cop to dangerous levels when they will have their day in court if they simply comply.
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Quote: This is the last thing I'm gonna say because you're not worth the keystrokes. This is America, land of due process. Innocence before guilt. And to see monsters like yourself make excuses for violent and unchecked law enforcement makes me actually ill. I'm gonna make this simple for you:

RESISTING ARREST SHOULD NOT BE A DEATH SENTENCE.
Agreed, Whole heartedly.

It happens to whites too, just doesn't get the press coverage. I see the problem not so much as one of race but stemming from the militarization of police departments. Police used to wear uniforms that were unmistakably civilian. They carried revolvers with six shots. They protected and served.

Now officers seem to have joined a paramilitary force. They wear fatigue pants and tactical shirts. They carry nineteen shot glocks with five extra mags. Many departments have armored vehicles. It seems that police now have a militaristic, us against the enemy philosophy instead of protect and serve.

In viewing that video there were enough officers on the scene to have tackled that man and cuffed him. The officers were wrong and any attempt to defend them is dumb. There may have been a gun in that car, in the console or on the floor, but those officers had ample time and space to put that man on the ground and get him under control and in hand cuffs before he ever got to the door. With police today it seems they don't protect and serve, they shoot first and ask questions later. Again they do this to whites too.
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Quote: 30. Is 30 what you need to feel outrage? Is 30 the number to make you sick to your stomach? How many executions by police does it take for WhiskeyDelta to feel that change is necessary?

I doubt that even a streak of 30 killings in 30 days would move you to action. Just a hunch though.

The current streak that I know of is 2.
  1. 8/22 - Trayford Pellerin, Lafayette, LA https://twitter.com/Eliixoo/status/1297026653646979072
  2. 8/23 - Jacob Blake, Kenosha, WI https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/s...98630875385856
The streak is currently active. So fingers crossed for you on 8/24, WD!
Excuse me while I go throw up.
Fanning the flames of conflict to prop up incomplete, intentionally misrepresented accounts define extremist tactics. Sickening, as you say. The Lafayette shooting is not a murder charge until investigated and only then, determined to meet the standard for arraignment. Pull a shiv on a cop and move to enter an occupied convenience store? That's likely where it ends for you. Make the officer black, the suspect white. No media fury, no protest. But quite plausibly, a Dylann Roof begins to stir. Can't imagine how this airline's leadership found the BODs approval to so publicly hurl itself into a bottomless social controversy at a time the industry is already facing its darkest hour? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dylann_Roof
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Quote: In viewing that video there were enough officers on the scene to have tackled that man and cuffed him. The officers were wrong and any attempt to defend them is dumb. There may have been a gun in that car, in the console or on the floor, but those officers had ample time and space to put that man on the ground and get him under control and in hand cuffs before he ever got to the door. With police today it seems they don't protect and serve, they shoot first and ask questions later. Again they do this to whites too.
Does this video support theory that cops shoot first and ask questions later? They draw their weapons on the far side of the vehicle. If the theory holds, the suspect would have been shot on that side of the vehicle. It wasn’t until he walks around to the foreground side of the vehicle, while ignoring police commands, and bends over into the vehicle that he is shot. It’s that exact moment that became the threat to the officers. Do we know if they saw a weapon? If one was there would that have been justified to open fire? We are talking about split-second life and death decisions.
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Quote: Fanning the flames of conflict to prop up incomplete, intentionally misrepresented accounts define extremist tactics. Sickening, as you say. The Lafayette shooting is not a murder charge until investigated and only then, determined to meet the standard for arraignment. Pull a shiv on a cop and move to enter an occupied convenience store? That's likely where it ends for you. Make the officer black, the suspect white. No media fury, no protest. But quite plausibly, a Dylann Roof begins to stir. Can't imagine how this airline's leadership found the BODs approval to so publicly hurl itself into a bottomless social controversy at a time the industry is already facing its darkest hour? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dylann_Roof
Check the video. Trayford has no weapon by the time he reaches the store. They killed him anyway.

Ironic that you cite Dylann Roof. Roof killed 9 people and the cops still took him alive. In fact, the cops went and bought him a Burger King Whopper while in custody.

Despite the resistance among airline pilots, Black Lives Matter actually has overwhelmingly high approvals with the public. It's only racist pilots that seem to take issue with the position.
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Quote: Does this video support theory that cops shoot first and ask questions later? They draw their weapons on the far side of the vehicle. If the theory holds, the suspect would have been shot on that side of the vehicle. It wasn’t until he walks around to the foreground side of the vehicle, while ignoring police commands, and bends over into the vehicle that he is shot. It’s that exact moment that became the threat to the officers. Do we know if they saw a weapon? If one was there would that have been justified to open fire? We are talking about split-second life and death decisions.
You cannot defend three officers allowing a single suspect to walk completely around a vehicle and get to the drivers door. The car could have been used as a weapon once he was allowed to enter it, no gun needed. That officer may get off if there was a gun in the car but the mistake was not taking the suspect down on the sidewalk away from the drivers' door. That shooting was not necessary. The officers had time and space to take him down with no shots fired.
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