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theAiken 08-26-2020 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by KnockKnock (Post 3116994)
What kind of spin doctor B.S is this?? You’re called out as a faux religious, race baiter??

yeah but you're the one "calling out" so it doesn't really mean much.

jDSTJD 08-26-2020 07:38 PM

This bickering is ridiculous. There’s a difference between BLM the organization and the literal concept that black peoples lives matter as much as everyone else’s which is what most people are trying to express. The latter don’t like (and publicly denounce all the time) the rioting and looting. They just want people to stop being killed.

proprunnner 08-26-2020 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by theAiken (Post 3116933)
aww yes the crime of driving across the border to help defend businesses and homes that were being targeted and looted.
I wonder how many of those "Peaceful" rioters were from out of state. The local police say probably more than half.

Kuddos to him for being a supporter of law enforcement as well.

Again you keep using the word "murder" when it was clearly self defense. No jury will convict him, it's plain as day it was self defense.

only monsters I see are you rioter enablers.

Hey, you completely ignorant ugly twat. You're grossly incorrect and I can't stress the gross part enough. Making a sickening joke about two innocent people being murdered is beneath anyone, regardless of what side of the political aisle your on, you human form of excrement. It's beneath me to even respond to your garbage, but I can't idly sit by while you post incorrect propaganda. Oh btw the reason he was being chased to begin with was because he had just shot his first victim he encountered while tryimg to disperse a group of protesters that had gathered at a gas station. Armed alt right vigilantes don't have any power to disperse a crowd, they are not law enforcement officers. Maybe you should gather all the facts before you sprout misinformation on the internet. Secondly the moment he left Illinois and drove into Wisconsin with a gun he broke the law because he was 17. You're not allowed to own a gun under the age of 18 in Wisconsin. So any point you make after that is literally mute, especially when the gun was not registered under his name.

https://youtu.be/EJN5D0f6cbc

look at that link for a better angled video. I know you won't change your OAN brainwashed opinion but at least it would show others you don't care about the actual facts.

proprunnner 08-26-2020 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by theAiken (Post 3116966)
It's just funny you think "black and brown" Americans don't have equality.
You're America haters and Communist because you support a political group whos leaders specially said those where their beliefs.

Hahaha. What's ironic about this, is that those were the exact same words used to describe Martin Luther king Jr. No kidding. The exact same words. I'm seeing a pattern here...

theAiken 08-26-2020 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by proprunnner (Post 3117092)
Hey, you completely ignorant ugly twat. You're grossly incorrect and I can't stress the gross part enough. Making a sickening joke about two innocent people being murdered is beneath anyone, regardless of what side of the political aisle your on, you human form of excrement. It's beneath me to even respond to your garbage, but I can't idly sit by while you post incorrect propaganda. Oh btw the reason he was being chased to begin with was because he had just shot his first victim he encountered while tryimg to disperse a group of protesters that had gathered at a gas station. Armed alt right vigilantes don't have any power to disperse a crowd, they are not law enforcement officers. Maybe you should gather all the facts before you sprout misinformation on the internet. Secondly the moment he left Illinois and drove into Wisconsin with a gun he broke the law because he was 17. You're not allowed to own a gun under the age of 18 in Wisconsin. So any point you make after that is literally mute, especially when the gun was not registered under his name.

https://youtu.be/EJN5D0f6cbc

look at that link for a better angled video. I know you won't change your OAN brainwashed opinion but at least it would show others you don't care about the actual facts.

I did see the videos and both the videos easily show that he was being attacked IN BOTH CASES. Those shot were not "victims" they were shot because they were the aggressors. Its clear as day in the video, that both shootings were in response to aggressive acts taken against HIM. The first one at the gas station shows a explosive device being thrown at him. The second shows a mob of people one of whom was armed trying to attack him. So yes I've seen the videos from all angles and I have the facts. This was in fact self defense and the people shot instigated, they are not victims.


Originally Posted by proprunnner (Post 3117096)
Hahaha. What's ironic about this, is that those were the exact same words used to describe Martin Luther king Jr. No kidding. The exact same words. I'm seeing a pattern here...

MLK never went on TV and clearly stated he was a marxist. Maybe inform yourself before you shoot your mouth off.

https://youtu.be/bixNhpo85-w?t=315

It doesn't matter if he broke local law because of his age. That's minor in retrospect when his life was on the line by being attacked. But keep defending the rioters and looters, it seems thats the look you want.

TransWorld 08-27-2020 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by theAiken (Post 3117100)
MLK never went on TV and clearly stated he was a marxist.

He was not a Marxist. His family, in recent years, said he was a Republican.

proprunnner 08-27-2020 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by theAiken (Post 3117100)
I did see the videos and both the videos easily show that he was being attacked IN BOTH CASES. Those shot were not "victims" they were shot because they were the aggressors. Its clear as day in the video, that both shootings were in response to aggressive acts taken against HIM. The first one at the gas station shows a explosive device being thrown at him. The second shows a mob of people one of whom was armed trying to attack him. So yes I've seen the videos from all angles and I have the facts. This was in fact self defense and the people shot instigated, they are not victims.




MLK never went on TV and clearly stated he was a marxist. Maybe inform yourself before you shoot your mouth off.


https://youtu.be/bixNhpo85-w?t=315

It doesn't matter if he broke local law because of his age. That's minor in retrospect when his life was on the line by being attacked. But keep defending the rioters and looters, it seems thats the look you want.

- I'm not going to keep going back and forth with you. Because nothing I say or show you will change your mind. You'll always find a way to deflect and defend those senseless murders with your daft Tucker Carlson and other OAN talking points. Reading your statements was the peak of hypocrisy calling what he did "self defense".
Please, read up basic law statures. The moment he left Illinois he broke the law, anything after that is all illegal. When you leave your property with an illegal weapon to another state, you're not doing it for protection, you're going for hunting, and that's exactly what he did. I'm not sure what video you're watching, but he should not be trying to disperse a crowd, only law enforcement can do that. Again once he walks over to the crowd he's automatically the aggressor. You can't engage anyone with a gun, thats no longer self defense. And an explosive device wasn't thrown at him. That's complete fiction. It might have been a water bottle or something similar but don't promote misinformation. And again after he killed the first person the protesters chased him as they rightfully should. They didnt randomly started to chase him for no reason. But all of that doesn't matter because all of this could have been avoided, if his mom and him had followed the law and stayed home instead of meeting up with those armed alt right gangs.

- Ok. I thought this commonly understood, but I see have to explain everything. The FBI, others in government, prominent businessmen and some media pundits used to widely denounce MLK as a Marxist and socialist. Everytime people of color demand equal economic and justice equality, we quickly get denounced as a Marxist. Exact same thing you and others are doing now.

- You spelled protesters* wrong. Stop senselessly killing unarmed black men and we'll stop protesting.

theAiken 08-27-2020 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3117192)
He was not a Marxist. His family, in recent years, said he was a Republican.

Sorry that was a typo, I meant to say he clearly never went on tv said he was a marxist unlike two of the blm group leaders have done.



Originally Posted by proprunnner (Post 3117695)
- I'm not going to keep going back and forth with you. Because nothing I say or show you will change your mind. You'll always find a way to deflect and defend those senseless murders with your daft Tucker Carlson and other OAN talking points. Reading your statements was the peak of hypocrisy calling what he did "self defense".

Don't need to deflect I have facts and evidence on my side. The facts that show not once but twice these rioters attacked him and he acted in self defense.


Originally Posted by proprunnner (Post 3117695)
Please, read up basic law statures. The moment he left Illinois he broke the law, anything after that is all illegal. When you leave your property with an illegal weapon to another state, you're not doing it for protection, you're going for hunting, and that's exactly what he did. I'm not sure what video you're watching, but he should not be trying to disperse a crowd, only law enforcement can do that. Again once he walks over to the crowd he's automatically the aggressor. You can't engage anyone with a gun, thats no longer self defense. And an explosive device wasn't thrown at him. That's complete fiction. It might have been a water bottle or something similar but don't promote misinformation. And again after he killed the first person the protesters chased him as they rightfully should. They didnt randomly started to chase him for no reason. But all of that doesn't matter because all of this could have been avoided, if his mom and him had followed the law and stayed home instead of meeting up with those armed alt right gangs.

So charge him with a misdemeanor for having a gun from out of state underage. But that doesn't take away that fact that he acted in self defense. In both videos it's clear he was attempting to flee and being attacked from behind by the OUT OF STATE rioters. You must have missed the video here that showed him being chased down by the guy https://twitter.com/AntifaWatch2/sta...585099264?s=20 It's clear they walked over to him and charged him.

The people that attacked him and he justly killed in self defense were a sex offender and wife beater, two scumbags that messed with the wrong guy. The other guy who lost his arm belonged to a far left agitation group and he also pulled a pistol on him.


Originally Posted by proprunnner (Post 3117695)
- Ok. I thought this commonly understood, but I see have to explain everything. The FBI, others in government, prominent businessmen and some media pundits used to widely denounce MLK as a Marxist and socialist. Everytime people of color demand equal economic and justice equality, we quickly get denounced as a Marxist. Exact same thing you and others are doing now.

Blah blah blah. I posted a video that showed the leaders of BLM say they are Marxists and have posted the same goals of Marxists on their website. You keep trying to make a connection to MLK that doesn't exist.


Originally Posted by proprunnner (Post 3117695)
Stop senselessly killing unarmed black men and we'll stop protesting.

You mean like the guy in Wisconsin who has now been shown to have had a weapon he was reaching for?


Originally Posted by proprunnner (Post 3117695)
- You spelled protesters*

Na the people burning down the city and those attacking federal buildings in seattle and portland are rioters at best and enemy's of the state at worst. A fifth column in this nation and i'm glad people are standing up to them.

rickair7777 08-28-2020 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by jDSTJD (Post 3117084)
This bickering is ridiculous. There’s a difference between BLM the organization and the literal concept that black peoples lives matter as much as everyone else’s which is what most people are trying to express. The latter don’t like (and publicly denounce all the time) the rioting and looting. They just want people to stop being killed.

[MOD INPUT]

Yes, this is what is eluding many people here.

Let's everybody tone down the rhetoric please. We don't all have to agree but we do need to keep it civil, I've let this go on longer than I would have due to being off the grid.

We are not going to silence any voices here, as long as it's civil and respectful. I think both sides of this need to find some common ground and understanding. If you want spew hate and anger, go here: https://www.facebook.com/

Bluetruth 08-28-2020 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by proprunnner (Post 3117092)
You're grossly incorrect and I can't stress the gross part enough.

A judge and jury will be finding him innocent. When there is video evidence, all the spin in the world cant turn the truth on its head. Of course when that happens you will be back to say the judge/jury were "white supremacists" or better yet "russian agents".


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