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BetaRange 05-27-2022 06:24 PM

Congratulations to the AK pilots for their strike vote. If you keep Constance away from the bargaining table, maybe the toxic elements will be held at bay.

shortspatula 05-27-2022 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3430664)
Wrong.

Nothing will ever make commuting as good as living in base.

As to whether commuting is worthwhile is circumstantial and in the eye of the beholder. Commuter benefits and accommodations can make it more worthwhile.

Wrong?

People commute because they have to not because they want to. You’re still losing your off days regardless of what perks you get. You call it worthwhile, I call it being forced to do it. Which it is, you’re stuck. Unless you enjoy being gone from family, then it’s definitely worthwhile!

rickair7777 05-27-2022 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by shortspatula (Post 3430930)
Wrong?

People commute because they have to not because they want to. You’re still losing your off days regardless of what perks you get. You call it worthwhile, I call it being forced to do it. Which it is, you’re stuck. Unless you enjoy being gone from family, then it’s definitely worthwhile!

I don't think you read my post, or the one I was replying to.

PNWFlyer 05-27-2022 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by CordovaCA (Post 3429642)

Good on the ual CEO for seeing the reality of the coming pilot shortage. I fear for our companies survival if we don't beat ual narrow body rates considering they are putting new hires in wide bodies.

what? Good on the UAL CEO? You mean the one that hates pilots! Please post all the details of the AIP. Oh wait you can’t. No one knows what was agreed to. Talk to a United pilot, they have no clue what was agreed to.

new hires in wide bodies??? That is not a good thing. Why are all the non new hire FOs passing up those positions?

CordovaCA 05-27-2022 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by PNWFlyer (Post 3430945)
what? Good on the UAL CEO? You mean the one that hates pilots! Please post all the details of the AIP. Oh wait you can’t. No one knows what was agreed to. Talk to a United pilot, they have no clue what was agreed to.

new hires in wide bodies??? That is not a good thing. Why are all the non new hire FOs passing up those positions?


Their pay rates have been leaked. Do you think they are getting a concessionary contract? Our highest attrition was to UAL before their new contract. Management offered us a proposal less than their CURRENT contract.

The ual ceo has been quoted they are doing this with the pilot shortage in mind. Their union seems happy. What are you trying to say?

PNWFlyer 05-27-2022 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by CordovaCA (Post 3430950)
Their pay rates have been leaked. Do you think they are getting a concessionary contract? Our highest attrition was to UAL before their new contract. Management offered us a proposal less than their CURRENT contract.

The ual ceo has been quoted they are doing this with the pilot shortage in mind. Their union seems happy. What are you trying to say?

I am saying talk to an actual United Pilot. They have no idea what was agreed to and they are being told they won’t know for a month.

Now what are you trying to say when you think wide bodies going to new hires is a good thing.

new hires never get a good deal.

Ala5ka 05-28-2022 04:01 PM

From what I understand nothing has been agreed to over there. I don’t even think their union has voted yes on it.. which means it’s still and aip and not a TA.. so your point makes very little sense.

Originally Posted by PNWFlyer (Post 3430945)
what? Good on the UAL CEO? You mean the one that hates pilots! Please post all the details of the AIP. Oh wait you can’t. No one knows what was agreed to. Talk to a United pilot, they have no clue what was agreed to.

new hires in wide bodies??? That is not a good thing. Why are all the non new hire FOs passing up those positions?



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