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tallpilot 07-20-2022 03:01 AM


Originally Posted by ChickenFinger (Post 3463308)
So what, you prefer the proposed solution?

So when it’s your break time as a pilot, a 3rd pilot comes into your seat, while you go back to a blocked off seat in 1st class to eat your re-heated leftovers you brought from home in the cooler next to all the Passengers?

Uh, no thanks…

I don't prefer this solution but I think it's absurd that narrowbody crews can be expected to work 6-8 hours straight without a break. Do truck drivers or train engineers do that? Perhaps this case will force the FAA to address the issue.

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Myfingershurt 07-20-2022 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by tallpilot (Post 3463709)
I don't prefer this solution but I think it's absurd that narrowbody crews can be expected to work 6-8 hours straight without a break. Do truck drivers or train engineers do that? Perhaps this case will force the FAA to address the issue.

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Yes, truck drivers indeed work for 6-8 hours straight. Was that supposed to be a joke?

FreqFlyer 07-20-2022 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by tallpilot (Post 3463709)
I don't prefer this solution but I think it's absurd that narrowbody crews can be expected to work 6-8 hours straight without a break. Do truck drivers or train engineers do that? Perhaps this case will force the FAA to address the issue.

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Then what would be your proposed solution, divert somewhere and land? I’ve blocked more than 6hrs with winds to Hawaii, what are you going to do then. It’ll be a cold day in hell before I go back and take a break in the main cabin and have to sit next to Bob, Mr. now it all in aviation, while he barrages me with questions while I try and eat my crew meal…

What exactly are you doing in cruise, that you can’t eat or think about anything else, that you could on your “break”, especially on a ETOPS flight with ACARS…?

Look you got into this profession, which is to fly an aircraft from point A to point B. We are a pathetic bunch if we now need augmented crews and rest bunks in narrow body aircraft.

rickair7777 07-20-2022 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by tallpilot (Post 3463709)
I don't prefer this solution but I think it's absurd that narrowbody crews can be expected to work 6-8 hours straight without a break. Do truck drivers or train engineers do that? Perhaps this case will force the FAA to address the issue.

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FA's can take plenty of breaks.

Pilots are on "break" for the vast majority of cruise on 2+ hour flight. They just need to be available in case of emergencies which are quite rare. You can ask the other guy to take the radios while you eat (or study the panel, if necessary).

If airline managements have to augment pilot crews on transcons, you get one guess who's slice of the pie it's coming out of... hint: it's not management's slice.

flyprdu 07-20-2022 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3463809)
If airline managements have to augment pilot crews on transcons, you get one guess who's slice of the pie it's coming out of... hint: it's not management's slice.

*Psst... your Alaska pilot defeatism is showing.*

CordovaCA 07-20-2022 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by tallpilot (Post 3463709)
I don't prefer this solution but I think it's absurd that narrowbody crews can be expected to work 6-8 hours straight without a break. Do truck drivers or train engineers do that? Perhaps this case will force the FAA to address the issue.

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Tell me you've never worked a job outside of sitting in an air conditioned flight deck without telling me you've never worked outside an air conditioned flight deck.

ExFokkerFlyer 07-20-2022 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by CordovaCA (Post 3464116)
Tell me you've never worked a job outside of sitting in an air conditioned flight deck without telling me you've never worked outside an air conditioned flight deck.

Haha...

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airb320 07-20-2022 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by tallpilot (Post 3463709)
I don't prefer this solution but I think it's absurd that narrowbody crews can be expected to work 6-8 hours straight without a break. Do truck drivers or train engineers do that? Perhaps this case will force the FAA to address the issue.

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Please stay out of my Flight Deck! Why exactly are you a Pilot? Go back to your first Career. Geez, I can’t believe we have to deal with ……… like you.

rickair7777 07-20-2022 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by flyprdu (Post 3464113)
*Psst... your Alaska pilot defeatism is showing.*

Get real. Just because It's bad for the company doesn't mean it's good for pilots.

THE SHAFT 07-20-2022 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by CordovaCA;[url=tel:3464116
3464116[/url]]Tell me you've never worked a job outside of sitting in an air conditioned flight deck without telling me you've never worked outside an air conditioned flight deck.


Sir this is a cockpit not a flight deck


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