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gzsg 09-24-2022 10:16 AM

New TA In 14 Days
 
You have nothing to lose by rejecting this unacceptable deal. Management must stop the attrition. They will agree to improvements within 14 days of the rejection.

TA2

Retroactive 12% raise 11/1/21 in addition to TA1 raises.

Triple retro pay.

19% DC

Snap up to DAL/SWA/AA//UAL

Jet Blue won’t have a new joint contract for at least 24 months.

If this gets voted in you will deeply regret it every day going forward.

OTZeagle1 09-24-2022 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 3500601)
You have nothing to lose by rejecting this unacceptable deal. Management must stop the attrition. They will agree to improvements within 14 days of the rejection.

TA2

Retroactive 12% raise 11/1/21 in addition to TA1 raises.

Triple retro pay.

19% DC

Snap up to DAL/SWA/AA//UAL

Jet Blue won’t have a new joint contract for at least 24 months.

If this gets voted in you will deeply regret it every day going forward.

Alaska has to keep us with AA, DA, & UA or in 8 mos they will be right back where we are now. They know this, parity is coming for our industry. B6 will get a deal soon too, they have too.

Retro pay for the Covid years, super smart guy. Yeah, retro for a period of time when airlines lost 40 billion… yeah there is a lot of retro in those great years!🙄

on a lighter note 46 to 7 on my PM’s now

Jet J 09-24-2022 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 3500601)
You have nothing to lose by rejecting this unacceptable deal. Management must stop the attrition. They will agree to improvements within 14 days of the rejection.

TA2

Retroactive 12% raise 11/1/21 in addition to TA1 raises.

Triple retro pay.

19% DC

Snap up to DAL/SWA/AA//UAL

Jet Blue won’t have a new joint contract for at least 24 months.

If this gets voted in you will deeply regret it every day going forward.



14 days ?

crack is a hell of a drug.

Pilotsoup55 09-24-2022 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 (Post 3500612)
Alaska has to keep us with AA, DA, & UA or in 8 mos they will be right back where we are now. They know this, parity is coming for our industry. B6 will get a deal soon too, they have too.

Retro pay for the Covid years, super smart guy. Yeah, retro for a period of time when airlines lost 40 billion… yeah there is a lot of retro in those great years!🙄

on a lighter note 46 to 7 on my PM’s now

58 no - 4 yes on my count

OTZeagle1 09-24-2022 11:02 AM

You can’t get blood out of a turnip. If your company is losing 3 million a day, they can’t give their pilots a 350,000,000 a year pay raise, they would go to prison 🤭🤭🤭

MJP27 09-24-2022 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by Jet J (Post 3500615)
14 days ?

crack is a hell of a drug.

Don't worry gzsg hasn't been right once with his prognostications on the Delta sub forum. Not once.......I guess he decided to cruise over here and spread some misinformation...

gzsg 09-24-2022 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by MJP27 (Post 3500627)
Don't worry gzsg hasn't been right once with his prognostications on the Delta sub forum. Not once.......I guess he decided to cruise over here and spread some misinformation...

Says the TA1 lover.

We got $800 MILLION more with TA2 and these Moakies said we wouldn’t get one penny more.

You can and will get the gains you deserve when you reject this weak deal.

Who was right about that?

You can’t fix stupid.

iahflyr 09-24-2022 12:20 PM

gszg is a troll. He goes on every other airlines forum and throws out random numbers and says don’t vote yes until you get those. Stop feeding him.

rickair7777 09-24-2022 12:38 PM

14 days or 14 months?

AS (unlike the big three) does not need to recruit or retain pilots if there's a big downturn.

Serious question for discussion.

Arctichicken 09-24-2022 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3500700)
14 days or 14 months?

AS (unlike the big three) does not need to recruit or retain pilots if there's a big downturn.

Serious question for discussion.

Angle Lake can’t execute their “plan” without a new pilot contract. They are in a rock in a hard place. If the TA passes, attrition may slow down a bit (a big maybe) but if it fails, attrition will surely go full scale. I’m willing to gamble that we will get a much better deal regardless of the economy. JMHO.


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