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Packrat 03-18-2020 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by majorpilot (Post 3002204)
This is not really persuasive...as you may have been told back in third grade when the rest of us were taught how to reason, debate and not name-call.

If name calling is a valid tactic for our Dear Leader, why is it not appropriate for his followers?

rickair7777 03-18-2020 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by majorpilot (Post 3002202)
BS. Not sure where YOU are getting YOUR info, but you’re delusional.

I don’t have any family in the medical field, and as of today I personally know 15 people who’ve tested positive in the last 3 days across four states.

I’m just an average Joe, and there are 300+ million like me in our country. Add to that the newsworthy people coming out and there is no way your number is anything but delusional.

Even POTUS has flipped on this, just watch the news clips (you may have to change the channel though to find the conflicting ones).

While one can quibble about effects, CV is clearly here and growing rapidly, not at “52 new cases total” on ANY day.

I don't know anybody yet, although I'm sure that will change eventually. I know people all over the world.

May be a situation where ultimately everyone will get either the bug or the vaccine, whichever comes first.

Excargodog 03-18-2020 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3002520)
I don't know anybody yet, although I'm sure that will change eventually. I know people all over the world.

May be a situation where ultimately everyone will get either the bug or the vaccine, whichever comes first.

The province where this started - where Wuhan is - Hubei province, has a population of 59 million people including 11 million in Wuhan city itself. Total cases identified to date in Hubei - the epicenter of the outbreak - is 67,800 and in all of China 80,800. That means if you lived in that province your chance of being diagnosed with COVID-19 was one in 870 and in the rest of China even less.

They are already starting to withdraw restrictions there:


https://www.thestar.com.my/news/regi...covid-19-cases

EngineOut 03-18-2020 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3003057)
The province where this started - where Wuhan is - Hubei province, has a population of 59 million people including 11 million in Wuhan city itself. Total cases identified to date in Hubei - the epicenter of the outbreak - is 67,800 and in all of China 80,800. That means if you lived in that province your chance of being diagnosed with COVID-19 was one in 870 and in the rest of China even less.

They are already starting to withdraw restrictions there:


https://www.thestar.com.my/news/regi...covid-19-cases

And those are perfectly transparent numbers. I am sure.

Excargodog 03-18-2020 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by EngineOut (Post 3003078)
And those are perfectly transparent numbers. I am sure.

Don’t know. All bureaucracies lie. But the numbers appear consistent with other indicators:

COVID-19 Chinese Recovery Begins | Audries Aircraft Analysis

Do you have BETTER numbers?

and remember, the denominator for cases in China as a whole is 1.4 BILLION.

lowflying 03-18-2020 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3003057)
The province where this started - where Wuhan is - Hubei province, has a population of 59 million people including 11 million in Wuhan city itself. Total cases identified to date in Hubei - the epicenter of the outbreak - is 67,800 and in all of China 80,800. That means if you lived in that province your chance of being diagnosed with COVID-19 was one in 870 and in the rest of China even less.

They are already starting to withdraw restrictions there:


https://www.thestar.com.my/news/regi...covid-19-cases

This is how they kept the numbers low:https://twitter.com/MikeIsaac/status...571772928?s=19

Nothing like is going to ever happen here so don't expect the same results.

WutFace 03-18-2020 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by lowflying (Post 3003139)
This is how they kept the numbers low:https://twitter.com/MikeIsaac/status...571772928?s=19

Nothing like is going to ever happen here so don't expect the same results.

Wow that video was remarkable. The US government is totally out of its league right now.

Excargodog 03-18-2020 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by lowflying (Post 3003139)
This is how they kept the numbers low:https://twitter.com/MikeIsaac/status...571772928?s=19

Nothing like is going to ever happen here so don't expect the same results.

and we have nothing like the average population density they did there.

and even in Italy where they have 35,000 cases diagnosed, that’s still 35,000 cases out of a population of 60.5 million. That’s still one in 1700 people. And the population density in Italy is five times what it is in the US and their median population is eight years older than ours. They are going to be hit a lot quicker and harder by this than we are.

Also, treatments are being found.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/18/japane...officials-say/

elssaw 03-22-2020 05:03 AM

If you look at exponential growth and doubling every 4 days then in 20 days 35,000 becomes over a million. 20 days later its 35 million. In less than two months 35,000 infects everyone in the US. Many suspect our fatality rate would be more like Italy because once we get 500,000 cases in the US then our healthcare system will be unable to provide proper care. So we would have somewhere between 1 million and 15 million fatalities.

50% of 330 mil get infected. 1-5% die. Do the math.

Xtreme87 03-22-2020 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by elssaw (Post 3007198)
If you look at exponential growth and doubling every 4 days then in 20 days 35,000 becomes over a million. 20 days later its 35 million. In less than two months 35,000 infects everyone in the US. Many suspect our fatality rate would be more like Italy because once we get 500,000 cases in the US then our healthcare system will be unable to provide proper care. So we would have somewhere between 1 million and 15 million fatalities.

50% of 330 mil get infected. 1-5% die. Do the math.

This statement is fear mongering nonsense. There are already more than a million infected in the US. Italian doctors were reporting strange pneumonia cases as early as November. This virus is so widespread already. Yet if you keep watching the reported numbers, this thing is just starting, which it isn’t. It’s been here for months. It’s only exponential on charts. The charts are incomplete at best.


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