Alaska nearing deal to acquire Virgin America
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I think we need to end the BS. Regionals exist to suppress wages. I think it is BS that 35 year employees at QX will be bumped by the parents and kids of Virgin employees off of Alaska flights. Is this the same arbitrator that awarded Alaska pilots 25% pay cuts? The industry is rigged against pilots, and pilots enable it. I don't expect a merger of Alaska and QX, but I expect to be treated like an employee of the air group.
#162
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There are no Air Group employees outside of corporate.....You are either employed by Alaska Airlines inc.( which will be the employeer of the Virgin pilots/ fa's/ mechs) or you are employed by Horizon Air Industries.....At Alaska Airlines inc. our CBA's determine things like travel priority.....As do the cba's at every other airline....For Horizon(and Skywest) as lift providers to Alaska travel benefits follow behind Alaska Airlines inc employees
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The point of merger policy is to fail to arbitration, that way ALPA doesn't get sued. Precedent is set to merge via equipment. The captains will be merged via ratio, then the fos by ratio, probably 2.75 AS pilots to 1 VX pilot for each respective group. If you don't get a JCBA first, the process will be far more painful.
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There are no Air Group employees outside of corporate.....You are either employed by Alaska Airlines inc.( which will be the employeer of the Virgin pilots/ fa's/ mechs) or you are employed by Horizon Air Industries.....At Alaska Airlines inc. our CBA's determine things like travel priority.....As do the cba's at every other airline....For Horizon(and Skywest) as lift providers to Alaska travel benefits follow behind Alaska Airlines inc employees
#167
I think the Virgin America acquisition will be the impetus to streamline travel benefits across Air Group. Think of the high commuter sectors (GEG, PDX). Now think, if you were hired at AS after 2007, you have not only QX pilots who go at a higher priority than you on 90% or more of the SEA-PDX and SEA-GEG flights, but now possibly Virgin pilots AND their families. A Virgin pilot's kid going off to spring break could now throw a monkey wrench in your commute...
I think travel benefits could be streamlined across the Air Group platform (AS, QX, and VA) with protections to ensure jumpseat priority and have it remain equitable.
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If you want travel benefits on Alaska, get hired at Alaska....They tried to sneak that Horizon date of hire in for new hires.....actually got away with it for awhile....we grieved and won and they stripped a bunch of people of their Horizon date of hire and put them where they should have been....Their Alaska date of hire
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If you want travel benefits on Alaska, get hired at Alaska....They tried to sneak that Horizon date of hire in for new hires.....actually got away with it for awhile....we grieved and won and they stripped a bunch of people of their Horizon date of hire and put them where they should have been....Their Alaska date of hire
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