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Originally Posted by mike734 (Post 2111990)

Not arrogance, joking. Gawd you guys are easy.

The interesting thing is Delta has had a better completion record on the route then Alaska. They had zero flights not make it last summer. We were told it was incredibly difficult and we would divert constantly on this forum.

You guys are easy...

5 passengers??? Tough times ahead.

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Now Delta is fighting back. Delta is saying that the demand between Atlanta and Doha is less than five people per day, so how can that possibly be the basis of a route? Per Forbes:

“Demand is less than five people a day” for Atlanta-Doha service, incoming Delta President Glen Hauenstein said Thursday on the carrier’s first quarter earnings call. He referred to the demand for travel between Atlanta and Doha, not including connecting passengers at either destination.
Later, asked whether Delta operates any routes where it has only five origin and destination passengers a day, Hauenstein responded sarcastically, “We don’t have any flights crossing the world that have less than 10 people a day.”
Delta president and incoming CEO Ed Bastian added, “We do have some markets that we have four or five passengers on.
“We call that Delta Private Jets,” Bastian said, referring to Delta’s luxury jet charter subsidiary.

This is a very unsophisticated argument on Delta’s part. We all know there’s not much demand for travel on the Gulf carriers to their actual hubs, but rather that their business models are based around offering connecting flights. That’s the whole argument the US carriers make, so I’m not sure why they’re trying to undermine it with this point.
And for that matter, I’d bet there are many Delta routes with similar numbers. I’d be very curious what the daily demand is between Minneapolis and Amsterdam, a route which Delta serves daily. It’s pretty disingenuous for them to pretend the don’t rely on connecting traffic just as much in many markets.

I think the point is, who is going to provide any feed to Qatar flights from ATL-Doha? If you look at Qatar's list of code share partners, American is the only one with any presence in ATL, and I can't imagine that they will provide enough passengers to make it a profitable route for Qatar. If Qatar cared about making any money, they would be flying CLT-Doha where they actually have a structure in place to feed the flight. This ATL flight is all about trying to stick a finger in Delta's eye.

My 737 can beat up your 737.

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Originally Posted by Bananie (Post 2112712)

My 737 can beat up your 737.

Only if your 737 is crewed by a highly trained, battle weather tested, specifically chosen, bush qualified, particularly skilled, steely eyed, Alaskan pilot that doesn't bid Hawaii instead of Juno.;)

If I bid to BKK does that make me bush qualified?

Or just visit the "Great Alaskan Bush Company"

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Originally Posted by maddogmax (Post 2113166)

Or just visit the "Great Alaskan Bush Company"

Funny thing though.... there was very little "Bush" at the GABC!

A couple of runways, but always very well trimmed!

Or so I've been told...

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Originally Posted by mike734 (Post 2111541)

That didn't take long. I heard it's because it's scary in the winter. You know, I probably made that up.
Delta Airlines to end year-round service in Juneau | Local News - KTUU.com Anchorage

It is scary up there in the winter! :D

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yJNZwuamwj0