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JustWatching 07-11-2018 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by RunningB (Post 2632165)
An even different perspective..
Hired right before hiring stopped, was promised hiring to resume in a couple months (eye roll). Moved to junior base, staring down the barrel of involuntary TDY month after month after month. Then was displaced out of said base subsequently and forced to just wait for a spot to open back up to get back in (with no hiring and little if any movement). If the company gets its way and doesn't hire again for years then jumping ship to do 4 days again will be vastly superior to being TDY'd involuntarily for half the year. Hopefully hiring resumes at some point but if its slow then be cautioned your experience could be similar

Sucks being junior... hopefully they get their sh@t together soon and do the right thing.

Sorry

mountainflying 07-11-2018 07:16 AM

Sure would be nice to have something in the contract to limit the amount of involuntary tdys in a year. Going to be hard to attract and retain people if you're away from home months at a time. Could always hope they keep vbd. That would be a win for those who want that lifestyle and keep those who want to be home at home.

ecam 07-11-2018 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by JustWatching (Post 2632277)
Sucks being junior... hopefully they get their sh@t together soon and do the right thing.

Sorry

Tell that to some of the "junior" CAs with 4 digit employee numbers in SFB that have been TDY'd for 5 months out of the last year.

Yes, they definitely need to get their sh@t together.

ecam 07-11-2018 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by RunningB (Post 2632165)
An even different perspective..
Hired right before hiring stopped, was promised hiring to resume in a couple months (eye roll). Moved to junior base, staring down the barrel of involuntary TDY month after month after month. Then was displaced out of said base subsequently and forced to just wait for a spot to open back up to get back in (with no hiring and little if any movement). If the company gets its way and doesn't hire again for years then jumping ship to do 4 days again will be vastly superior to being TDY'd involuntarily for half the year. Hopefully hiring resumes at some point but if its slow then be cautioned your experience could be similar

That sucks. I won't be disrespectful like justwatching and say sucks to be junior, but in your shoes, I'd consider spirit. Their contract blows ours away now, and they are still growing, getting new planes. Until Maury retires, this company isn't going anywhere. You may realistically be stagnant for the next 2-3 years the way things are going here. If you're at the bottom of this list, you really have nothing to lose by leaving, and a lot to lose by hanging on.

woog315 07-11-2018 01:29 PM

What kind of override pay do you get for TDY, if any? per diem I assume?

skydisaster 07-11-2018 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by woog315 (Post 2632661)
What kind of override pay do you get for TDY, if any? per diem I assume?



Per Diem is it.


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JustWatching 07-11-2018 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by ecam (Post 2632439)
That sucks. I won't be disrespectful like justwatching and say sucks to be junior, but in your shoes, I'd consider spirit. Their contract blows ours away now, and they are still growing, getting new planes. Until Maury retires, this company isn't going anywhere. You may realistically be stagnant for the next 2-3 years the way things are going here. If you're at the bottom of this list, you really have nothing to lose by leaving, and a lot to lose by hanging on.

How was I being disrespectful? I was being sympathetic. It does in fact suck to be junior at this and any airline. If by the amount of complaining you do is any comparison, you should agree. I realize you're old and angry at all the kids, but dude... enough already.

tom11011 07-11-2018 06:56 PM

A different perspective here. I'm a senior FO in a larger base. I bid minimum hours. I work only Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday. In my base, Tuesday is a low flying day, only a handful of flights. Occasionally I can't get Tuesday so I instead work M-W-Th. On average this works out to 11-12 days of work per month.



Since I live in base, having a single day off here and there is just fine with me.

skyypilot 07-12-2018 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 2632880)
A different perspective here. I'm a senior FO in a larger base. I bid minimum hours. I work only Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday. In my base, Tuesday is a low flying day, only a handful of flights. Occasionally I can't get Tuesday so I instead work M-W-Th. On average this works out to 11-12 days of work per month.



Since I live in base, having a single day off here and there is just fine with me.

Living in base would rock!! I’m not sure if I want to move and then get bumped and have to move again. Corporate has been good to me but the schedule or lack there of is sometimes brutal. We are a small company and taking off is hard especially when you work 100-125 days a year!!

dutch rudder 07-12-2018 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by RunningB (Post 2632165)
An even different perspective..
Hired right before hiring stopped, was promised hiring to resume in a couple months (eye roll). Moved to junior base, staring down the barrel of involuntary TDY month after month after month. Then was displaced out of said base subsequently and forced to just wait for a spot to open back up to get back in (with no hiring and little if any movement). If the company gets its way and doesn't hire again for years then jumping ship to do 4 days again will be vastly superior to being TDY'd involuntarily for half the year. Hopefully hiring resumes at some point but if its slow then be cautioned your experience could be similar

Amazing how a couple of years’ difference can create vastly different situations. I would like to think that your experience is the exception, not the rule.

That really blows. Hang in there, it’s worth it.


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