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EALOFFSPRING 07-26-2019 07:31 AM

I sense a theme:

If you plan to commute, don't come to allegiant.
If you want to live in an allegiant base, this is the best job available.

Mic drop...

galaxy flyer 07-26-2019 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by navy1998 (Post 2859600)
So my question is this, assuming living in base with a 30-45 min commute, is it better QOL than say your average non-pilot job (i.e. corporate desk job) where they work 5 days a week 8 to 5 only getting weekends off (so between 8 and 10 days off a month)? I know unless you make it to a high executive level, the pay will definitely be better.
I ask this as that is my only alternative. Current regional life and being gone from home isn't working for my family (and I'm a mid range line holder getting average 14 to 17 days off) and I know mainline life isn't much different other than pay.
I'm a retired Marine Corps officer with BS in aerospace engineering and MS in Electrical engineering with 20+ years leadership experience so can get a good job out side but that's not what I really want to do. Any thoughts?

Sorry to say, but if you can’t hack 14-17 days off and away the rest, very few flying jobs will work. Corporate, I’d have weeks off, then a 14-day trip. Airlines nearly everywhere might improve on 14-17 days after a few years of seniority but not much more the 17 off.

GF

Flight Deck Ape 07-26-2019 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by navy1998 (Post 2859600)
So my question is this, assuming living in base with a 30-45 min commute, is it better QOL than say your average non-pilot job (i.e. corporate desk job) where they work 5 days a week 8 to 5 only getting weekends off (so between 8 and 10 days off a month)?

To answer your question, I would have to say that your traditional corporate job will have much more consistent hours and days off for you to plan your life around.

I think the main difference is the hours of the day that we work. In SFB we have now squeezed in a third bank of flights. It used to be two banks with a morning show time around 0700 that would get you done around 1400 and a 1400 show time that would have you done by 2200.

Now we have show times around 0500, 1200, and 1600. Your choices now are to get up at 0330 for the early show times, show up at 1200 to often work a four leg day and finish around 2200, or come in at 1600 and finish around midnight (or much later depending on how the operation is running).

navy1998 07-26-2019 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by galaxy flyer (Post 2859630)
Sorry to say, but if you can’t hack 14-17 days off and away the rest, very few flying jobs will work. Corporate, I’d have weeks off, then a 14-day trip. Airlines nearly everywhere might improve on 14-17 days after a few years of seniority but not much more the 17 off.

GF

Thanks for the smart ass and not very helpful response. I've spent a good majority of my life working a schedule and being away from home that I guarantee most of you who never served wouldn't understand. It's not about the number of days off. It's about being able to get home on any given day should the need arise. The family reason has to do with medical for both my wife and son and there have been times that issues arise in the middle of a trip that I cant return home for. Part of it is just being home each day even for a short while to provide a break and take the load. Hence the reason I'm not comparing to other airlines because I already know that QOL. I also know the QOL doing the Mon-Fri from staff tours and know that for my family, being on a short tether works best for thier needs. I love flying and the job, so asking if my assessment is correct in terms of allegiant being the best compromise for my needs. At no point am I asking about getting lots of days off.

Direct Law 07-26-2019 09:09 AM

Do whats best for you bro the info here is limited I love layovers but my kids want me home every night. Its the only reason I would choose G4.

j3cub 07-26-2019 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by navy1998 (Post 2859600)
So my question is this, assuming living in base with a 30-45 min commute, is it better QOL than say your average non-pilot job (i.e. corporate desk job) where they work 5 days a week 8 to 5 only getting weekends off (so between 8 and 10 days off a month)? I know unless you make it to a high executive level, the pay will definitely be better.
I ask this as that is my only alternative. Current regional life and being gone from home isn't working for my family (and I'm a mid range line holder getting average 14 to 17 days off) and I know mainline life isn't much different other than pay.
I'm a retired Marine Corps officer with BS in aerospace engineering and MS in Electrical engineering with 20+ years leadership experience so can get a good job out side but that's not what I really want to do. Any thoughts?

Live in base. If you fly 4-5 trips per week and love close by the airport you are based at your life will be great. Drive more than 45 min or commute and you will complain. Follow the advise of others to live in base and you will really enjoy it here.

ecam 07-26-2019 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by navy1998 (Post 2859675)
Thanks for the smart ass and not very helpful response. I've spent a good majority of my life working a schedule and being away from home that I guarantee most of you who never served wouldn't understand. It's not about the number of days off. It's about being able to get home on any given day should the need arise. The family reason has to do with medical for both my wife and son and there have been times that issues arise in the middle of a trip that I cant return home for. Part of it is just being home each day even for a short while to provide a break and take the load. Hence the reason I'm not comparing to other airlines because I already know that QOL. I also know the QOL doing the Mon-Fri from staff tours and know that for my family, being on a short tether works best for thier needs. I love flying and the job, so asking if my assessment is correct in terms of allegiant being the best compromise for my needs. At no point am I asking about getting lots of days off.

If you can move to a base preferably a junior one come here.

If you cant or won't you won't be happy here either.

It's really that simple.

Within 3 years as an FO in a large base you will be able to home 15+ days off a month and be home almost every night. Keep in mind management has stated that at some point we will start doing some overnights. They will be a small % of trips for the foreseeable future.

navy1998 07-26-2019 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by j3cub (Post 2859728)
Live in base. If you fly 4-5 trips per week and love close by the airport you are based at your life will be great. Drive more than 45 min or commute and you will complain. Follow the advise of others to live in base and you will really enjoy it here.

I live in Tampa so PIE is 20 min and SRQ 60 (my parents house is about 25 so I can hang out there when needed). In the meantime, SRB and PGD are manageable until I can get PIE and even FLL as I have lots of family that way. I understand there is a good chance I will get some where else initially but hopeful with that many options should be able to get back with in the ballpark relatively shortly.

EALOFFSPRING 07-26-2019 06:04 PM

Navy, do it. This is the best gig on the planet.... Shhhh... You heard it from an insider.... I'm pie based. I haven't done an overnight in 2 years.

Thunderpig 07-30-2019 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by navy1998 (Post 2859600)
So my question is this, assuming living in base with a 30-45 min commute, is it better QOL than say your average non-pilot job (i.e. corporate desk job) where they work 5 days a week 8 to 5 only getting weekends off (so between 8 and 10 days off a month)? I know unless you make it to a high executive level, the pay will definitely be better.
I ask this as that is my only alternative. Current regional life and being gone from home isn't working for my family (and I'm a mid range line holder getting average 14 to 17 days off) and I know mainline life isn't much different other than pay.
I'm a retired Marine Corps officer with BS in aerospace engineering and MS in Electrical engineering with 20+ years leadership experience so can get a good job out side but that's not what I really want to do. Any thoughts?

Retired AF here...the positives of this place outweigh the negatives if you are wanting to be home with the kids. I chased this place down for that very reason. That being said, as a newhire, you're going to be run over on reserve. Not being raised in the 121 world, it's a seamless transition from the military life...you're a cog, suck it up. Once you can hold a composite line (mixed flying and reserve), life gets immeasurably better and this will be the easiest job you will ever have. There are occasional days where you are going WTF, but for the most part, you show up, do the job, go home. Depending on where you fall in the stack of a newhire class, you may or may not get PIE or PGD...SFB would be the next best option, as that is an easy commute. You will not make great money...but you'll make decent money with the benefits of not living out of a suitcase for the most part. As for your education background, etc...no one cares, particularly management. Again, seamless transition...


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