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Jim Rockford 04-06-2022 01:52 AM


Originally Posted by V1AutoPilot (Post 3401075)
You respond with this? Not engaging previous points? You a rep? (Laughing hard again). The Freudian slip and disdain for the bus should tell you, not that it matters. I'm merely an observer trying to leave meaningful Easter eggs for any G4 onlookers.

I suppose the slightest bit of interest also still remains as everyone is in negotiations presently and each will reference the other in some degree. First could very well be last in this case.
If you've been on property for a while, please enlighten me as to what occurred a few years back with ALPA and G4? Inform the thread. I can refresh your memory if you don't recall. Nice coffee discussion for your first leg with whomever.

I’ve never understood the need to visit the “other side” of anything, in this case an airline one doesn’t belong to, to spew out such vitrol. If one doesn’t like Allegiant, please move along with whatever makes you happy. I’m in mine. It’s not perfect, but it’s certainly not the worst thing in life. Maybe take a step back with a 30,000 foot view and see what misery is really like in other parts of the world as we shallowly discuss whose airline or airplane is better than the others. Seriously, I hope you are in a better place my friend. (Btw the Airbus is the best! 😝)

Smallcheese12 04-06-2022 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by FreshWater (Post 3401088)
Disdain for the bus? I don’t know of anyone who would say they have disdain to describe it. Interesting. So, what airplane are you flying now? Would you say you do or do not have disdain for it?

Imagine being upset at pilots for the plane they fly. This is classic RJ social media influencer talk.

Margaritaville 04-06-2022 07:12 AM

This whole thing is very odd. If I'm understanding this correctly, he left G4 after a short time, got hired at what he thinks is a better airline (or Air Line?) and now he's back to insult G4 pilots with a thesaurus vocabulary and lawyerly syntax able impress nobody?

Someone has way too much time on their hands.

I'm all for telling it like it is and warning prospective pilots what they're getting into, but this is pure trolling and weak trolling at that.

This is like the kid who got into Harvard coming back to their high school at homecoming and telling them they all suck because they went to a state school. What an *******.

Edit: Not only that, looking at his post history, he's obviously using this as a trolling account. Yawn, nothing to see here.

FLYMIA 04-06-2022 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3401252)
This whole thing is very odd. If I'm understanding this correctly, he left G4 after a short time, got hired at what he thinks is a better airline (or Air Line?) and now he's back to insult G4 pilots with a thesaurus vocabulary and lawyerly syntax able impress nobody?

Someone has way too much time on their hands.

I'm all for telling it like it is and warning prospective pilots what they're getting into, but this is pure trolling and weak trolling at that.

This is like the kid who got into Harvard coming back to their high school at homecoming and telling them they all suck because they went to a state school. What an *******.

Edit: Not only that, looking at his post history, he's obviously using this as a trolling account. Yawn, nothing to see here.

I usually don’t like a lot of your posts but, you nailed it.

I remember his posts from prior years. BEWARE OF FEEDING TROLLS.

Kylerittenhouse 04-06-2022 04:35 PM

Hoping for a contract at Allegiant is like hoping not to catch aids after banging a Las Vegas hooker while you are in training in Vegas. Keep your expectations low.

V1AutoPilot 04-06-2022 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3401252)
This whole thing is very odd. If I'm understanding this correctly, he left G4 after a short time, got hired at what he thinks is a better airline (or Air Line?) and now he's back to insult G4 pilots with a thesaurus vocabulary and lawyerly syntax able impress nobody?

Someone has way too much time on their hands.

I'm all for telling it like it is and warning prospective pilots what they're getting into, but this is pure trolling and weak trolling at that.

This is like the kid who got into Harvard coming back to their high school at homecoming and telling them they all suck because they went to a state school. What an *******.

Edit: Not only that, looking at his post history, he's obviously using this as a trolling account. Yawn, nothing to see here.

Clever verbage, I see what you did there. Not so much a warning as it is a signal.

Put the coolaid down momentarily, sober up, and perhaps you'll see through a clearer lense your union speaks for you through snake tongues. Their only interest is the top percent. You sincerely believe they're qualified, efficient, and experienced? I think not. Seems more like learn as you go for them (at best). Enjoy those high dues and assessment. No response on ALPA? Don't recall top seniority pilots selling out?

But oh that's right, you're Teamsters with A R tip of the spear. He was the one who she'd tears if I recall. I'm sure your contract will be HUGE since, it was pointed out, you've got 1 of 3 seats on the NMB. My.. the power. Delta rates again? How does one negotiate with a company that shrinks and potentially downsizes? I for one cannot answer this, but I'm sure ALPA could've ; )

P.S. Trolls usually laugh. I've since ceased and now shake my head in disdain, not for the bus (the laugh), but for the "union" [the lacking confidence and respect].

414to412 04-06-2022 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by V1AutoPilot (Post 3401061)
Apparently so. Try reading again slowly and skipping abstract figurative language and jokes. The points made are clearly directed towards top 25%+ fools, and the clueless / inexperienced "union." If you had half a brain you'd likely deduce I know a pilot or two over yonder. The rest of the text dialogues are responses to others' statements. Can't believe I entertained your lack of reading comprehension.

On second thought, just bash me. I fully expect you'll miss the point of this as well. Hooked on Phonics should be a pre-req before engaging anything on here. You passed your type? Stay at G4... keep those auto throttles and automation engaged. Enjoy the job and vote to retain your DJ chair -I'm sure he has your best interest in mind (chuckles have ceased -ensue confusion and cynicism). Side note: your dues are unusually high. May want to find out which union has the weakest reps in the industry. I imagine it directly correlates to experience.

Glad you know so much about what the top 250 need most in their life…

414to412 04-06-2022 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by V1AutoPilot (Post 3401635)
Clever verbage, I see what you did there. Not so much a warning as it is a signal.

Put the coolaid down momentarily, sober up, and perhaps you'll see through a clearer lense your union speaks for you through snake tongues. Their only interest is the top percent. You sincerely believe they're qualified, efficient, and experienced? I think not. Seems more like learn as you go for them (at best). Enjoy those high dues and assessment. No response on ALPA? Don't recall top seniority pilots selling out?

But oh that's right, you're Teamsters with A R tip of the spear. He was the one who she'd tears if I recall. I'm sure your contract will be HUGE since, it was pointed out, you've got 1 of 3 seats on the NMB. My.. the power. Delta rates again? How does one negotiate with a company that shrinks and potentially downsizes? I for one cannot answer this, but I'm sure ALPA could've ; )

P.S. Trolls usually laugh. I've since ceased and now shake my head in disdain, not for the bus (the laugh), but for the "union" [the lacking confidence and respect].

Let’s humor you jenuis. ALPA, such a great “union” (association really). We don’t have them. Do you suggest we Decertify? Or simply vote out and replace our entire union leadership?

Ultimately, whatever you believe, our beat chance at success is continuing the course. We can change course after a contract. But now isn’t a time to decertify, unelect or anything else

But you knew that. You’re the smartest in the room. Yawn.

trvsmrtn 04-06-2022 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by Kylerittenhouse (Post 3401629)
Hoping for a contract at Allegiant is like hoping not to catch aids after banging a Las Vegas hooker while you are in training in Vegas. Keep your expectations low.

Is it purely coincidence that Kyle Rittenhouse was driven by his mommy across state lines to engage in violence that he had no business being a part of and suddenly we have your newbie account spewing **** where you seemingly don’t belong?

FreshWater 04-06-2022 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by V1AutoPilot (Post 3401635)
Clever verbage, I see what you did there. Not so much a warning as it is a signal.

Put the coolaid down momentarily, sober up, and perhaps you'll see through a clearer lense your union speaks for you through snake tongues. Their only interest is the top percent. You sincerely believe they're qualified, efficient, and experienced? I think not. Seems more like learn as you go for them (at best). Enjoy those high dues and assessment. No response on ALPA? Don't recall top seniority pilots selling out?

But oh that's right, you're Teamsters with A R tip of the spear. He was the one who she'd tears if I recall. I'm sure your contract will be HUGE since, it was pointed out, you've got 1 of 3 seats on the NMB. My.. the power. Delta rates again? How does one negotiate with a company that shrinks and potentially downsizes? I for one cannot answer this, but I'm sure ALPA could've ; )

P.S. Trolls usually laugh. I've since ceased and now shake my head in disdain, not for the bus (the laugh), but for the "union" [the lacking confidence and respect].

You know things are going bad for management, when auto throttles starts showing up.


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